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Where is MAURA MURRAY

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John

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Mason wrote:
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Paris, who has not posted here in a long time developed a friendly relationship with him and invited him to appear on this forum, which he agreed to do. I think everyone who read his posts believes he's an extraordinary insightful and peaceful human being who harbors no ill will against anyone.
Paris has been involved in this case since shortly after Maura disappeared and she has participated in some of the searches. She was a good friend of Beth, AKA SilkyBoxer, who unfortunately passed away awhile ago.
As you get more deeply into this case, you will see references to Beth. Seems like she was a tireless angel of mercy who had dedicated her life to finding missing people.
I wish I had met her.
Fred
Okay, thanks for the explanation. On it, I view the repeated claims of Vasi here to be legitimate.
Beagle

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Anne wrote:
<quoted text>John, good point.
You're wandering into conspiracy land, Anne. Be careful, you may never look at anything the same way again.
FireCat

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Snowy White wrote:
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i looked in thru the window today for Beagle and his twin Alden as i passed Panera.
really, FireCat....do you have to show off?
p*r*e*v*a*r*i*c*a*t*i*n*g
Oops. I keep forgetting that regular people don't talk like that.:-D Sorry.
FireCat

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(If it's any consolation, I can't ever balance my checkbook, even WITH Quickbooks!)
John

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Beagle wrote:
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Actually, it's a deceptively simple question. Did you see her at her security post? Presumable answer: no, you didn't see her. Do you know where the security desk in Melville was in relation to the building's entrance? In fact, literally, a lot of people did not see Maura at her post that night; a fact that is always true, but it does not mean she wasn't there. Did you see her at her post Thursday night? No. Did I see her at her post Thursday night? No. It's not as though the story and the event happened at the same time, which is what Snowy's earlier chronology problem was. People seem to think of the timeline of the events happening in Amherst between Thursday night and Monday night as if they were one with their reconstruction. How much time passed between Thursday night and the time the events of Thursday night were publically known?
No problem. Nothing sinister inferred. Just keeping and thereby emphasizing the exact phrase or sentence I want to zero in on. Not trying to trim relevant context, just the fat.
Paragraph 2 - that's what I thought.

Paragraph 1 - huh? I don't follow. Didn't her supervisor see her. She would have needed a lot of time to leave, go home, get her car, hit Vasi, come back, compose herself, get the upsetting call, then get upset. So, I don't think the speculated X could have laid it on her. But maybe I am missing something, and - although I often follow and agree with your posts - I was confused by reading your first paragraph.
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Yes, I did not believe that he was an attorney. I thought he was saying he taught law in Seattle. I wanted to see if he said U Dub as that is where I went and I would be able to easily discover if he were lying about that. But the group seems to believe that he is in fact a lawyer, so perhaps I will shut my cynical ass up.
Well, let's just say the jury is not back on that yet. Have you checked out the "other" forum yet?
FireCat

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John wrote:
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Not trying to request a specific location, but generally what part of the city? I lived on Brooklyn Avenue NE when I was there, right across from the old original Last Exit.
If posting your neighborhood makes you nervous, please disregard and forgive me asking. There are some weird entitis in this forum. I am just curious. I love the city. I am thinking of moving back there.
Oh, I did my grad work on the other side of the state, thus "high and dry"....but when I was in Seattle, mostly QA.
John

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Beagle wrote:
<quoted text>You're wandering into conspiracy land, Anne. Be careful, you may never look at anything the same way again.
That was funny.

But to suggest that the poster saying he was Vasi might not have been does not necessarily suggest that one subscribes to a conspiracty ... just the possibility of someone strange posting. But Fred convinced me on this point.
Mason

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#14138
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John,

The deeper one burrows into this case, the more complicated it becomes.

Another angle was presented by Peripeteia that's worth serious consideration. Maura was a student at West Point and she transferred to UMass after completing her first year and part of the fall semester of her second year. Many women cadets were victims of sexual assaults during the time she was there.

I'm not suggesting that she was, but Rumsfeld announced the results of an Army investigation of the widespread problem on Thursday, approximately 12 hours before Maura had her meltdown at work.

This situation has invited and produced a lot of speculation, as you might well imagine.
Beagle

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#14139
3 hrs ago
 
Great, we've got two bona fide lawyers here. So they should be able to understand and answer a simple question.

How could Maura be confidently and successfully accused of having driven the Saturn at the time Vasi was hit on Thursday night if, in fact, she did not drive it?
FireCat

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#14140
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John wrote:
Has anyone ever suggested that Maura knew Vasi?
Vasi has posted here, and some people here have spoken to him. He did not, and does not, know Maura. He had never heard of her until her disappearance.
John

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Mason wrote:
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John,
I don't know when you attended the U DUB, but I co-founded Innocence Project Northwest there with Professor Jackie McMurtrie in 1997. I recruited the 40 lawyers in private practice and I organized the lawyers and law students into teams that represented pro bono 17 innocent people who were wrongfully convicted in the Wenatchee Sex Ring witch hunt prosecutions in the early to mid-nineties. Jackie supervised their work.
Fred
Feeling like if I think about it I am going to remember who you are, either because you were there when I was or because I probably read your name in Columns as I read an article about the Innocence project on it.
FireCat

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mcsmom wrote:
Anne..that's how I recall it as well. Found during a search.
Beagle's panera borders UMASS.
LOL, let's not give the man anything else to freak out about, mcsmom. I don't care where his Panera is. Some towns in my state, there are almost as many of them as there are Starbucks.(Starbuckses? Starbucks-i? Damn! The nerd has been caught with her grammar-pants down!)
John

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FireCat wrote:
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Well, let's just say the jury is not back on that yet. Have you checked out the "other" forum yet?
Actually, based on what he just said to me, he is either who he said he is or he is posing pretty credibly as a specific person I know to exist. I graduated from the law school where he said he taught and he mentioned something that would have been hard to reconsruct if he was posing as someone else.
John

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FireCat wrote:
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Well, let's just say the jury is not back on that yet. Have you checked out the "other" forum yet?
I have not checked out the other one. Pretty busy keeping up here!
John

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FireCat wrote:
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Oh, I did my grad work on the other side of the state, thus "high and dry"....but when I was in Seattle, mostly QA.
If I do move back, I would love to live there. God, I love that city.
Mason

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FireCat wrote:
(If it's any consolation, I can't ever balance my checkbook, even WITH Quickbooks!)
It's really easy if you use Cookbooks. Never had a problem once I switched.
FireCat

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Beagle wrote:
<quoted text>Go back and look at the posts. Maybe it was him; I certainly had my doubts. But that's me. All conspiracy all the time.
(I don't suppose anyone remembers 10 10 WINS New York? When they played music?)
Actually, yes, so I totally got that slogan reference!
John

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Mason wrote:
John,
The deeper one burrows into this case, the more complicated it becomes.
Another angle was presented by Peripeteia that's worth serious consideration. Maura was a student at West Point and she transferred to UMass after completing her first year and part of the fall semester of her second year. Many women cadets were victims of sexual assaults during the time she was there.
I'm not suggesting that she was, but Rumsfeld announced the results of an Army investigation of the widespread problem on Thursday, approximately 12 hours before Maura had her meltdown at work.
This situation has invited and produced a lot of speculation, as you might well imagine.
Huh! That is interesting. What were the results of that investigation? Is there a possibility that Maura was an unpublicized victim and may have been upset that perhaps her case was going to come to light?
FireCat

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John wrote:
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Actually, based on what he just said to me, he is either who he said he is or he is posing pretty credibly as a specific person I know to exist. I graduated from the law school where he said he taught and he mentioned something that would have been hard to reconsruct if he was posing as someone else.
Not really, because all of that information is easily accessible with a simple google search. It'll all be confirmed on the first page of results.

(For the record, though, I'm a big fan of the IP in all its incarnations....and I also support the WM3, etc....) And I am not going to weigh in at this point as to whether or not Mason is who he says he is, because.....well, frankly (although Frank is someone else entirely!) at the moment it doesn't much matter to me.
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