Where is MAURA MURRAY

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elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Thanks John,
Although I thoroughly understand your line of reasoning I stated the rag in the tailpipe was to 'make it appear' Maura was trying to commit suicide.
In 2001 an article was published about missing persons in New Hampshire. A state trooper spoke quite candidly. The numbers of individuals who were reported missing and who, allegedly, committed suicide made it appear to me that it would be quite easy for LE to be quick assume a missing person was suicidal. I'll have to pull up the article and provide the link so you can read it for yourself.
Interestingly enough, the suicide theory was one of the first and LE tried to back it up with Maura's favorite book, a note left on top of boxes in her dorm room, etc.

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Quija wrote:

Mason, thanks for PMing what TOPIX doesn't allow here!
John, I am NOT connected to UW Law School, but it IS a small world, re Jackie, as Mason said!

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Eurobserver wrote:

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John,
It is indeed, as you say, quite possible that someone was with Maura in the Saturn at the Weathered Barn.
If we presume this to have been the case....
Then why wasn´t that other person seen by the SBD, who only spoke of having seen and spoken with a young lady, who may or may not have been Maura.
There would hardly have been enough time for a possible second person to run from the car in time to not having been observed doing so by the SBD arriving in his bus.
Thoughts and ideas?

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Mason wrote:

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Euro,
You're going to hate me for this:
The dude was small, maybe cute in an Orwellian sort of way, and even though his voice cut through steel when he was whispering, he was still ... well, small.
So, he grabbed the rag, climbed into the tail pipe and pulled the rag in after him to avoid detection and get warm.
Fred

Mason wrote:

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John,
The Saturn had an automatic transmission and it was found in neutral, which means the car wouldn't start.
Some have speculated that the car was placed in neutral at the nearby scene of a previous accident and towed with a rope with the Saturn coming loose in the curve at the Weathered Barn and crashing into the snowbank.
According to this theory, the rag was placed in the tail pipe as a warning that it was being towed to any drivers that might be behind the Saturn
I don't believe this happened, but I can't prove it didn't.
Fred

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Mason wrote:

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John,
The Saturn had an automatic transmission and it was found in neutral, which means the car wouldn't start.
Some have speculated that the car was placed in neutral at the nearby scene of a previous accident and towed with a rope with the Saturn coming loose in the curve at the Weathered Barn and crashing into the snowbank.
According to this theory, the rag was placed in the tail pipe as a warning that it was being towed to any drivers that might be behind the Saturn
I don't believe this happened, but I can't prove it didn't.
Fred

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John wrote:

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That is an interesting take I had not thought of at all. So, are you suggesting she put it there to stage a failed suicide or that the cops did or someone else?
Thanks for the informative post

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Mason wrote:

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What good would it do to stand-up? You couldn't see me.
I've decided to just laugh at everybody about this identity thing because I've gotten way to intense about it. Seriously, I thank everyone for challenging my identity because my reaction has established that I have invested far too much of my identity in being a lawyer, a law professor, and an astrologer. Yes, I engage in those activities, but as a human being, I am so much more than than any one or all of those things. And, so are each of you mre than what you do for a living.
It's far too easy to identify oneself as a lawyer, doctor, nurse, professor, teacher, bartender, waiter, etc. These forms of identification mean nothing in the end because they are only activities from which we make a living.
So, people can accept or reject what I say. My words speak for themselves as the words of others speak for them.
Many thanks and many blessings to all of you for teaching me that important lesson.
Fred

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John wrote:

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Three people posting here know her.
Has anyone considered the possibility that she was at 112 and OPL?

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John wrote:

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I don't think anyone has disputed or doubts that I graduated U Dub law school around the time you were said you were working with JM. As such, I feel like I have a right to join the "is Fred Fred" debate. Three things:(1) you did have some specific knowledge, but (2) you first said you taught at U Dub, but backed away from that slightly when you found out I was there. So, finally,(3) can you name some professors who were there at about that time, because I will know and you would not be able to easily research past U Dub law professors. If you can do that to my satisfaction, and I believe you, I don't see how anyone could dispute that you are the Fred you claim to be.
Or did I miss the point of the Paris-Fred argument? It seems like I miss a lot of points here.
And by the way, who is this much ballyhood Paris?

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Mason wrote:

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John,
I have never claimed that I taught at the UW. Where did you get that idea?
I know John Junker.
That's it. Ain't playing this tiresome game anymore. If you don't believe me, that's fine because I really don't care.
I do care when people misstate what I said.
Fred

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Anne wrote:

John I might say right away, it is not necessary to me to confirm anything about Mason, nor Beagle nor anyone else. I think it is important to respond to the message, not the messenger. As far as Paris, she/he is a poster from the beginning of forum involvement, I always thought she gave great posts, and it is very simple for me, I have missed her input. Since not a single one of us has the answer to what happened to Maura, I think it takes all of us even if we disagree to provide any valid points to further arrive closer to what really happened when Maura disappeared, without a trace in Haverhill 2004.

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Mason wrote:

Hey John, really. If it makes you feel better, assume I'm not a lawyer or a law professor. Please make yourself comfortable.
Just don't ask me to explain to you the Rule Against Perpetuities or the Rule in Shelly's case.
And would you please stop with the "Interesting idea. Very well constructed," bullshit. You're embarrassing yourself with comments like that whether you know it or not.
You sound like every know-it-all-who-knows-nothing asshole that ever lived. Just a word to the wise, son.
Fred

Advocator wrote:

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Not exactly. What I'm saying is that we've been told by her supervisor that there is no way she could have been out driving and hit Vasi, due to the fact that a supervisor checks the security desks every 20 minutes. That would seem to give Maura an airtight alibi. But we don't know how exact and truthful the supervisor was.