Where is MAURA MURRAY

quija wrote:

Might make sense to talk again to either Karen Mayotte or other students who worked security desks to determine if, like other security people, they're "allowed" to make coffee runs, but not necessarily "on the record". It was called ridiculous on another forum that it might be in a supervisor's interest, the school's interest, or in the interest of a person who covered for Maura in her absence from the desk, to deny she made a coffee run after everything that happened. I'm not sure what to think about this.
Eurobserver, it did seem like the man who thought he met Maura in the church in Barton, VT was a decent man, a father with daughters himself, not just a kook, for sure. Guess he's important to check out too.
No-one in the Stage Stoppe Store saw Maura that night, did they?

What/where is Stage Stoppe Store? I figured the most likely package stores were the two north of campus - Watroba's and I forget the other one, but it's on 63, just north of the fork on the right by Cumberland Farms. If the name of the store were known, that might indicate a direction of travel - say toward a town on the west side of the Connecticut River.

I forget whether there's a liquor store near the end of University Drive or near Price Chopper or Stop and Shop. There's probably one in there somewhere. If not, there must be one on Russell St in Hadley. But going west on 9 in my mind, I can't recall one on Russell.

After crossing the bridge into Hamp, the next liqior store north would have been Table and Vine, next to Big Y. Next one north after that would be in Hatfield.

But given what little we know, Watroba's makes the most sense.

BeagleBart wrote:

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Thanks, this addresses the patient, but what about the bogus phone calls seeking information about the patient?
Say, for example, my wife received one or more calls by someone impersonating a Vasi family member who was seeking information regarding Vasi's exact condition. Would HIPPA prevent her from discussing those bogus inquiries with someone else as long as no information about Vasi was included?
Could she say, for example, "I received a couple of phone calls from someone in Amherst who pretended to be the sister of a hit-and-run victim. She wanted information about him, but I told her she could not have any information because she was not the victim's sister because the victim does not have a sister." Or something like that.
In other words, she would not be discussing the patient's condition, care, or anything like that; not even, necessarily his name. She would just be saying that someone had been calling the unit to find out about the patient and the caller was not who she said she was - was not a family member.
Thanks.

BBart, I don't think that the HIPPA law would pertain to this, as it is NOT medical or other confidential information about the patient. In fact, given that how Vasi came by his injuries was a mystery (was he hit? was he car surfing and fell? etc.), surely the police would be interested in any odd calls that came in to the hospital regarding his condition. This might be especially interesting if those calls came in Before the story about him hit the news.

A question that I can't recall anyone asking either on the MMM forum or elsewhere: did Maura's cellphone show her making or receiving any calls AFTER she was escorted back to her room by her supervisor in the early morning hours of Friday, February 6, 2004?

It's not a huge stretch to think that if she was crying and so upset over something from a phone conversation, she might have called the person back once she was in the privacy of her room, or might have received further call/s from the person.

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Advocator wrote:

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BBart, I don't think that the HIPPA law would pertain to this, as it is NOT medical or other confidential information about the patient. In fact, given that how Vasi came by his injuries was a mystery (was he hit? was he car surfing and fell? etc.), surely the police would be interested in any odd calls that came in to the hospital regarding his condition. This might be especially interesting if those calls came in Before the story about him hit the news.

Actually, the police are, in some cases, virtually waiting at the hospital for calls like that to come in. But that's usually in far higher profile cases than this one. Usually, in a multi shoot or something like that.

In a case like this, the cops would almost definitely have quized Vasi's nurses and anyone else in the unit who may have taken a call. I know my wife was questioned countless times about stuff like this. And, yes, the unit does know who's calling them. The detectives always leave a business card and say to contact them if anyone calls. It's no big deal because it's just so standard.

The first news account in The Collegian was Monday. Not sure about other news outlets, depends on who was crash-spotting that night. It's not unusal for certain patients in the unit to be under blackout. No news to anyone. Period. The patient has a phony name. Nobody knows nothing. This is very common. If someone calls without a code, you know you've got a live one.

Worth checking the local news outlets. But that doesn't mean word-of-mouth didn't spread around campus pretty fast, either.

Stage Stop Store is on 112, near crash site.

Citigirl, does your "dispatch" copy read, in 2nd paragraph narrative "They adv one female, no PI, Not shook up"
("They" being Hanover Dispatch)

Ladygrey. if you're still here....what about
your copy...?

whiston, although I know nothing of what may have gone on in MA, I can see, with regret, that someone here has known some of the information you have asked for. It is unfortunate that it was not given to you before now as I know you are working hard to find answers...

Shack wrote:

Stage Stop Store is on 112, near crash site.
Citigirl, does your "dispatch" copy read, in 2nd paragraph narrative "They adv one female, no PI, Not shook up"
("They" being Hanover Dispatch)

Shack I will capitalize the narrative just as it is on the Grafton County Sheriffs Department dispatch log but I will put a question mark for the witnesses name and phone number. Narrative-At 1943,HANOVER DISP CALLED TO ADV GOT A 911 CALL FOR US; 911 ADVISED ALL CIRCUITS BUSY; IS FOR 10-25,CALLER AT 2 AMMONOOSUC RD,(?)RES,(?). THEY ADV ONE FEMALE, NO PI, BUT SHOOK UP.(CALLED THE (?) RESIDENCE WOMAN ADV HER HUSBAND SAW THE CRASH AND CAME IN HERE TO CALL. BUT NO IDEA WHERE THE FEMALE IS) She is claiming that he saw the accident. Narrative-h2, clear of the scene,lavoies has the veh, anyluck locating the party or has she shown at the cottage? adv partner working on will have contact you.LE has claimed Maura was not injured so why would they bother checking the hospital? Sounds to me that something made them believe she may have been injured especially if they are checking out the hospital to see if Maura is there.

hi all. i know Sharon R.checked Mauras phone bill and found out about the call to the Salamones after 8 months .what about the rest of the year and prior times.also if Maura called a hotel to reserve a room they would run the card to se if it was good but no charges would be made if she paid cash .i know this is basic stuff but any reservation people out there have any feed back .is a credit card check recorded in any way other than the front desk.take care philip

hi all, this really bothers me .lets say my daughter is missing. where you there can you help did you see anything. oh ,i will not tell you where she disappeared from or where she studied or worked because ..well i don't think it is important and that might bring attention to her prior life and family.also if you were in school on the same team with her or coahed her where she never ran a race for the school it would be nice to hear from you please help in any way you can .did i mention i won't tell you where she worked or where she studied but if you can please help .work with the fact take care philip

anyquestion wrote:

I can see, with regret, that someone here has known some of the information you have asked for.

Who?

Since this report is of second-hand info, not the witness, I think it could easily be misconstrued; seeing the vehicle that had been in an accident and seeing the accident occur. Dispatch: "Where's the female now?" Caller: "No idea" I see nothing unusual there. The wife may have been more interested in whatever she was doing rather than paying attention to where the driver was at that moment. The comments came from the wife who did not see anything that we are aware of.

isnt it correct? "The wife" worked as anauxillary sheriff for Grafton County?

TX Citigirl...mine reads the same...Also, another paragraph/narrative..."H2 REQ ALL FIRE UNITS BOL FQR A FEMALE ABT 507 ON FOOT, VICTIM OF CRASH" (not yelling, typing it as written)
As we have questioned before....Maura's height....? SBD said so...? and Fire units receive BOLs....?
(no mention of area towns PDs Bolo that night...?)
Groan....then CS tells Sharon on Wed. that he didn't know it was a female....? Huh...? What?
Just watched 48 Hours...the words "investigators in touch with the victims family" made me envious.
But, we as outsiders, do not know if investigators have contacted Maura's family at all lately.
Whiston, I hear your frustration..I remember Silky telling me (like we don't know it anyway) as to how tight lipped Colleges are regarding any "goin's on" within their campus, to the public...basically to ensure that more monies and enrollees don't hesitate to attend. Don't know why family/friends can't/won't give more...
as to her last days/week. OR Maybe perhaps ...all is known to SP already...?
If this were my daughter, those who didn't try to help me would be duck fodder. ; )

Shack,
My belief is that the forum is used mainly for gathering info from others, not so much for putting out info. There was a lot of clarification of info, but the professionals likely have a lot more.
There are few here who actually should do more than sift through theories because, well, you can figure out why. Hearing Doppleganger wanting to inquire about facts from college students frankly makes me a bit concerned for the students. Whiston, I know you're good, but let's face it, there have been plenty of questionable people on both forums. A PM to you would have been decent though.

Watching wrote:

Hearing Doppleganger wanting to inquire about facts from college students frankly makes me a bit concerned for the students.

Pure Miscavige. Of course, Helena neglects to mention that she's the one who made up the name Doppelganger.

Watching wrote:

Hearing Doppleganger wanting to inquire about facts from college students frankly makes me a bit concerned for the students.

Pure Miscavige.

This absolutle lie is exactly the kind of edgy childish bullying that has insulted the people of Haverhill so much. Watching would rather frame a person she knows to be innocent than to let the truth show that she is protecting the guilty. Everyone reading this can see the desperation in her posts. And the outrageous lies. It's just more of the same Emperor's new clothes.

Watching would like nothing better than to drive her nemisis to suicide with her lies and deceit. An opponent's suicide is what Watching regards as the highest form of accomplishment. Watching wants to crush someone to the point where he will kill himself. And then she will really roll on the floor laughing.

Doppelganger has never once considered interviewing college students. Watching knows this is the truth. Watching is getting very desperate because she knows how close the full truth is to exposing her gang of space opera clams.

Watching - Do you get frequent flyer miles to Clearwater and Hemet? Or do you take the Enterprise? Isn't that what "Oh My" meant by Scottie? You have more voices than Sybil.

Watching wrote:

Shack,
My belief is that the forum is used mainly for gathering info from others, not so much for putting out info. There was a lot of clarification of info, but the professionals likely have a lot more.
There are few here who actually should do more than sift through theories because, well, you can figure out why. Hearing Doppleganger wanting to inquire about facts from college students frankly makes me a bit concerned for the students. Whiston, I know you're good, but let's face it, there have been plenty of questionable people on both forums. A PM to you would have been decent though.

No one this evil and vicious has even the slightest interest in finding out the truth about Maura. But she has a lot of interest in making sure the truth does not emerge.

Watching reminds me of Brigham Klyce and his drive past his cousin Emily's house a half hour after her death. It's how one gets into the club. Sort of an initiation.