Where is MAURA MURRAY

I just got off the phone with Fred. MY APOLGIES. He is who he says he is. He accpeted my apology and is very nice.

Sorry everyone - when I am wrong - I admit it.

Posted on new forum 2/20/09..

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: What's up here


To Det. Columbo

White Wash wrote:
I was going to have the High Sheriff contact you directly without my involvement but you being the Professional you state have no EMAIL
listed odd so I asked for your email from Whiston and Advocator.

By the way GCSD has no clue who you are hence the request for your
credentials but since it doesn't take much to be a PI doesn't really matter
does it along with the FACT someone is REQUESTING PROOF OF YOUR CREDENTIALS ANY PROFESSIONAL WOULD SUPPLY THEM TO THE
LE REQUESTING THEM!

CLUE ANYONE seem we know which piece DC is!

For all interested I have requested via the Grafton County Sheriffs Dept
proof of DC credentials as you ALL SEE HE HAS DENIED THEM leaving me
to BELIEVE HE IS A FAKE!

Detective Columbo wrote:
To: Detective Columbo
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:38 am
Subject: White Wash asked for your email address

hi DC ,how are you.I just got a pm from White Wash.She asked me for your email address.I dont' know what todays game is but should i give it to her.Please let me know when you get a moment.

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WW

I will not send my credentials to anyone who tries to get my info from another poster (name removed for privacy) rather than coming to me 1st.

NHSP, GCSD and HPD know who I am and if they have questions for me they can talk to me directly. I have no intention of sending my credentials via fax or email. I keep my ID in my wallet and produce it whenever asked. Whenever I talk to anyone or conduct an interview my ID is shown so the person feels comfortable speaking with me.

Thank You.....


WW....

First of all, WHY do you need my email address, Anyone can contact me here through a PM. I have not listed an email addy because I get way too many emails now and I also don't need every NUT IN THE BAG filling my inbox with junk. If You would have asked me 1st for my email addy I probably would have given it to you, however in your DEVIOUS WAY, You tried to acquire my info from other unknowing posters and even the moderator of this site. I find that in itself very disturbing and not very PROFESSIONAL from someone WHO CLAIMS to be a professional.

LE has never asked for my info, YOU took it upon yourself to type up a request for my credentials asking me to send it to Sheriff Dutile. If LE wants my info they themselves can request it and I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to supply that to them.

I have no intention of sending it via email or fax though as this is not a secure way to supply this info. I will however upon request produce it to the proper authorities when and if that time comes.

However your request is denied unless of course You come to me in person with your LE BADGE in hand. BUT, I don't believe you have a badge or ANY AUTHORITY to request this info from me and I have NO OBLIGATION to actually prove to you who I am.

NHSP has known my identity since 2004, so I would be very surprised if GCSD and HPD has no clue who I am. If they were interested in who I am they would find out. I feel YOU ARE USING LE to gain info for your own deceitful purpose, whatever that may be and if this is true it shows just how professional YOU are being.

Apparently it doesn't take much to be a photograper/reporter either from what I can tell.

annonomously.......Columbo
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"Oh....Just one more thing"

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White Wash games are being played. The new forum Advocate has locked the topic "Who's Who" on the new forum.

Can someone please send an update on BOL?

I have asked this several times.......

Was his name released?

Why on theh 9th was he headed to Mass?

Did they find him ?

Are they still looking ?

Very interesting the age of this young man 25 and leaving on day of the anniversary?

Mason wrote:

<quoted text>
A novel is fiction, by definition.
What I posted is non-fiction because, with the exception of my comments that are clearly labeled and my introduction and conclusion, everything else consists of quoted material with references to the original text and the numbered paragraphs contain the speaker's own words.
The document speaks for itself.
Gred

Mason? I know. please don't drag me into it any further. I wasn't posting an opnion on whether or not I agreed with John--simply clarifying what he'd written..

Dawn wrote:

I just got off the phone with Fred. MY APOLGIES. He is who he says he is. He accpeted my apology and is very nice.
Sorry everyone - when I am wrong - I admit it.

Thank-you.

Dawn and I have resolved our differences. I also apologized to her for things I said in the heat of battle.

Problem between us is solved.

Let's get back to work.

Fred

In post # 14999 my statement about WW playing games has nothing to do with ADVOCATE. I was simply stating that the forum is locked. I apologize for the confusion.

On the other hand I would just be careful as to what info you choose to provide to Whitewash.

Thank You.....Jo

FireCat wrote:

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Mason? I know. please don't drag me into it any further. I wasn't posting an opnion on whether or not I agreed with John--simply clarifying what he'd written..

Mason, I was not trying to imply that you wrote lies. I just was humorously noting that you wrote a A LOT. So, as to whether yours was a work of fiction or non-fictoin, the implication was not intended.

Detective Columbo wrote:

On the other hand I would just be careful as to what info you choose to provide to Whitewash.
Thank You.....Jo

Yo, Jo...

IF Maura was abducted, and if there's at least a 5-10% chance, realistically, of someone's being able to identify the person who did it, where's that person going to go?

Because it seems that the well has been thoroughly poisoned. Can't trust LE, can't trust PIs, can't trust so-called anonymous mailboxes, can't trust certain self-described family members, can't trust the press...

My guess is that a certain PI prefers Maura's abductor remain free over looking into a lead that has at least a 1 in 20 chance of realistically yielding the name and address of either someone who actually abducted Maura - if she was abducted - or someone who knows and can identify him or her.

I predict PIs (and probably LE) will fail to act on this lead by dismissing the informant as unreliable (in other words, too embarrassing for them to talk to), thereby demonstrating their true lack of commitment to finding Maura. They are not committed enough to finding Maura to chance the least embarrassment, except, of course, if they are recommending the use of a psychic.

If someone has, realistically, a 5-10 percent chance of identifying Maura Murray's abductor - IF she was abducted - then where is that person going to take that information?

Because if that person has been reading this thread for any length of time, then it seems unlikely that he or she will take that information to anyone at all - LE, PI, press, family, anonymous mailbox... anyone. The well has been poisoned all around.

But a PI will jump at the chance to recommend to LE a psychic????

LE and honest PIs constantly follow leads in major investigations that have only a one-in-a-thousand chance of panning out. LE and honest PIs spend a lot of time trying out different scenarios, different theories, to see what can logically develop without producing internal contradictions.

The only reason for them to not follow a one-in-twenty chance of finding a perpetrator is what? Their time is too valuable? They don't personally LIKE certain posters?

IF Maura was abducted, and if there's at least a 5-10% chance, realistically, of someone's being able to identify the abductor, what's the person who might identify the abductor going to do?

Would it be wise to go to the possible abductor with this information?

Mason wrote:

<quoted text>
Thank-you.
Dawn and I have resolved our differences. I also apologized to her for things I said in the heat of battle.
Problem between us is solved.
Let's get back to work.
Fred

Get back to WHAT work?

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will) but have you not already stated that Maura's disappearance will not be solved online?

So what's a poor boy to do - all dressed up and nowhere to go?

Shack wrote:

Advocator...guess I am guilty of ignoring the
Mason dilemna...thinking that it would just go
away....perhaps I have NH in my genes.
Like ignore it...? and it will go away......?

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Ignore the Mason dilemma? What dilemma? There is NO dilemma, Mason is and always has been Fred Leatherman. Period.

Mason wrote:

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Not a chance, Shack. Transgressions have been committed, repeated warnings have been ignored, and the first shots have been fired. The war is underway and it will not be over until its over.
Fred

Good. The last victim was an unlettered and defenseless SBD who was driven out of NH by the insinuations, slander, libel and character assassinations of the first MM forum. I won't even repeat what was said about him but to say that it was actionable is an understand.

Beagle - I guess you have to hit the town.

Anyone - Anyone here about the BOL - be on the look out for the 25 year old male ????

Snowy White: You said Mason was "a liar." (your word). I said to you what lies did he tell? You answered me with:'He won't tell me why he despises (your word) Fred.' Huh? Is that a non sequitor or what?

Dawn wrote:

Beagle - I guess you have to hit the town.
Anyone - Anyone here about the BOL - be on the look out for the 25 year old male ????

Jeesh calm down and take a chill pill and PM DC and ask him since he seems to be the only one that heard it.

My goodness, SBD was never driven out of NH by insinuations, slander, lible and character assassinations. He left because he wanted to and had the means too. For goodness sake, he was a very verbal witness to news sources. I have often wondered if what locals have repeatedly said, HE LOVED THE ATTENTION! He talked continuously on his radio in the bus, from what MANY have said that knew him. He got his dream in the end a boat to fish from in warm winter weather. He refuses to answers any further questions not because he answered too many but because he never answered enough! IMHO we need to straighten out these facts.