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Beagle

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FireCat wrote:
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Interesting that you see it this way. I see it as a man who had finally had enough of the cold weather in the winter and could retire and buy a boat. I never heard anyone say he'd been paid off.
What's "disgusting" is the continued vilification OF ANYONE that goes on here. Period. Full stop.
I don't know anyone who distorts the truth and lies as well as you do.

You hate the very thought that what happened to Maura might become known.
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Funny you should pick up on that and not on the rest of my post? It was implied that SBD was in a conspiracy with CS, CW and other Haverhill LE and they all were somehow involved in Maura's disappearance or the cover up of said disappearance. And quelle horreur, SBD was soundly reviled because he did not bring Maura a thermos of a hot beverage and a warm blanket. How evil can the man get? The fact is that Maura told SBD to GET LOST when he offered to call 911. Because he wasn't Mother Theresa this was to you just more proof of his guilt.
No, it's not that I didn't pick up on it, suzanne. I addressed it when I said I hadn't heard that. How can I comment on something if I've never read it? You're very quick to lash out and accuse people of attacking without thinking or reading closely.
Beagle

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Beagle wrote:
<quoted text>What an absurd response. Why can't someone go interview him? Is that illegal? Just because someone besides LE or PIs gets there first, doesn't mean the potential perpetrator can't be talked with.
It's not illegal, but it might well be suicidal.
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Suzanne wrote:
FIRECAT, DAWN had the guts and the integrity to apologize. Do you?
Wait a minute. To whom am I apologizing, exactly? And for what?
Beagle

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Maybe he lives near WNEC?
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I'm almost entirely certain that, given the vocal nature of this forum, if I had offended someone recently and they needed or wanted an apology, I would know.
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FIRECAT, DAWN had the guts and the integrity to apologize. Do you?
Firecat never wrong, always right.
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Beagle wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know anyone who distorts the truth and lies as well as you do.
You hate the very thought that what happened to Maura might become known.
Oh. Right. Absolutely.

This is entirely ridiculous. I'm going to bed.
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For the record, I have never said anything one way or the other that could even be construed as judging SBD. I have gone out of my way not to, in fact. You're accusing me of doing something I've never done.

That....would warrant an apology, if one from you even meant anything.
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FireCat wrote:
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It's not illegal, but it might well be suicidal.
And even if it is, then maybe that will help put the case forward, right? Wouldn't it sort of make a case against the bad guy if he is approached by someone who wants to interview him and the bad guy that abducted Maura kills the reporter?

Or does your automatic oppositional instinct take over and say something different?
Beagle

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Feb 20, 2009
 
FireCat wrote:
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It's not illegal, but it might well be suicidal.
So what. Is that any of your business? Maybe it will be sort of hard for the perp to explain why he killed the reporter.

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Feb 20, 2009
 
Suzanne, I am puzzled as to why you need to vigorously defend Mason.

Are Mason's accusations, implying Fred Murray to be a less than caring and responsible parent (of a 21 y/o young woman), based on facts and truth? Or, if these statements are partially or wholly untrue, then by definition, might they be considered lies?
You decide.

I found the content of this passage particularly incendiary:

p. 611 Mason #12303

"No member of her family even accompanied her back to school. Fred Murray drove the Saturn to somewhere within 100 miles of Amherst. He called AAA and had them hook-up the Saturn and tow it to the parking lot at Kennedy Hall. Maura rode in the tow truck. Fred Murray drove home.

He exerted quite an effort to help her commute to her clinicals by providing her with a mechanically unsound vehicle that she was afraid to drive. But then she probably didn't need one since the clinical in Norwood was only 100 miles each way.

He also made quite an effort to help her move back to campus after the long break. Bridgeport is 104 miles from Amherst and there was no tow fee for a tow less than 100 miles. So, he took some time out of his terribly busy schedule to drive to a drop-off place.

Of course, he did buy himself a new car so he had expenses.

What a great dad!"
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Suppose a writer made every effort possible - all in vain - to identify to the proper parties (e.g., LE, PI, etc.) the identity of a possible abductor. Everyone ignored him, so he contacted the possible abductor and was killed as a result. Would that not bring some much needed attention to the person whom the writer tried to interview? It might interfere with the interview, but at least the crime might get solved. Or isn't that the point?
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FireCat wrote:
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Oh. Right. Absolutely.
This is entirely ridiculous. I'm going to bed.
Glad you agree.
Beagle

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Feb 20, 2009
 
Snowy White wrote:
Suzanne, I am puzzled as to why you need to vigorously defend Mason.
Are Mason's accusations, implying Fred Murray to be a less than caring and responsible parent (of a 21 y/o young woman), based on facts and truth? Or, if these statements are partially or wholly untrue, then by definition, might they be considered lies?
You decide.
I found the content of this passage particularly incendiary:
p. 611 Mason #12303
"No member of her family even accompanied her back to school. Fred Murray drove the Saturn to somewhere within 100 miles of Amherst. He called AAA and had them hook-up the Saturn and tow it to the parking lot at Kennedy Hall. Maura rode in the tow truck. Fred Murray drove home.
He exerted quite an effort to help her commute to her clinicals by providing her with a mechanically unsound vehicle that she was afraid to drive. But then she probably didn't need one since the clinical in Norwood was only 100 miles each way.
He also made quite an effort to help her move back to campus after the long break. Bridgeport is 104 miles from Amherst and there was no tow fee for a tow less than 100 miles. So, he took some time out of his terribly busy schedule to drive to a drop-off place.
Of course, he did buy himself a new car so he had expenses.
What a great dad!"
Particularly incendiary? Golly. And Det. Columbo said he would call Mason a "jerk" to his face if he ever had the opportunity.

I don't care who Mason is or what he has done in his professional life. Two, at least, of his statements about Fred Murray are either little honey pot remarks or they are so far over the line that calling him a jerk or incendiary is practically an endorsement! Otherwise, Suzanne makes many good points.
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There is a group of people who owe SBD a deep, heartfelt, profound apology. You destroyed this man's reputation. I hope he has by now been able to put this all behind him, unfortunately he never had the resources to take legal action. Shack you were one of the worse and Firecat I can't quantify your particular participation but you were certainly one of the gang and you know exactly what I mean. Don't say you don't.
If you won't apologize to him then at least apologize to Mason.
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Feb 20, 2009
 
Good Night.
Beagle

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Feb 20, 2009
 
FireCat wrote:
For the record, I have never said anything one way or the other that could even be construed as judging SBD. I have gone out of my way not to, in fact. You're accusing me of doing something I've never done.
That....would warrant an apology, if one from you even meant anything.
You and her go way back, I take it.
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FireCat wrote:
I'm almost entirely certain that, given the vocal nature of this forum, if I had offended someone recently and they needed or wanted an apology, I would know.
How would that be possible with you?
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