Where is MAURA MURRAY

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Mason wrote:

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Norwood is in the opposite drection. It's SE of Amherst in the general vicinity of Hanson, which is where Maura was born and raised. Hanson is south of Boston.
Fred

Dawn wrote:

Peri
Not being familar with clinicals. Just curious - if you were to be out a week - wouldn't you need to also let the hospital know where you would be working. Wouldn't they need to arrange for additional staffing for patients? Not sure how it works - a sick day here and there - but a weeks worth ?? most hospitals are understaffed these days at least in the usa.

Dawn wrote:

Maybe my memory is off today - but wasn't there a photo somewhere of the apartment she stayed at - a grey building two story on a corner ? or am I thinking of another missing persons case?

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peripeteia wrote:

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Beagle a time line from Amherst is a starting point for calrifaction of the sequence of events prior to Maura's departure from Amherst.
Perhaps we can develop an accurate time line in
Amherst, on Sunday and Monday, and determine who was the last person to see Maura. Last time she was videoed or DVD on campus.
The information is confusing and it appears that Maura was not seen on Monday anywhere other than the person reported by the Boston Globe, and allegedly this was Monday. What do we know about this person?
The beer in the bag sighting, allegedly took place Sunday morning?
Maura was with her Father on Sunday morning?
Or did the beer in the bag sighting take place on Monday Morning?
We assume that Maura did not leave the campus early in the morning and pick up the forms from
the Motor Vehicles Department but rather picked them up before leaving town? Is this known for sure?
Maura had newly developed pictures in the car, had Maura just picked these photos up or were they packed to go on a trip?
It is presumed Maura went to the liquor store on route out of Amherst? Time?
The sequence of Maura's telephones and emails on Sunday and Monday?
Maura gets off work on Sunday, then what does she do? All Sunday night and Monday morning. Maura worked on a group project, likely by herself, and don't know how this came to be known, what evidence other than if there was written material left in her room, to indicate she had done some work?
How does Maura return the item of clothing to her classmate? LEFT it WHERE to be picked up?
Who were the girls who went to the campus police and were looking for Maura, had she an appointment with these ladies?
I think there were lots of things going on in Amherst that we are unsure of? I don't have a clear picture of what Maura's activities were on Sunday and Monday, and surely there are other members who are in the fog regarding the seqence of events that transpired in Amherst, most important day of all, the day Maura went missing, Monday, Monday!

Mason wrote:

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See Topix Message # 12180 at p. 604,
Took me awhile to find Citigirl's post.
Yes, Maura had to go to Norwood for clinicals, which is a 200 mile round trip.
I also recall that she stayed overnight near there at a fellow nursing student's home with whom she'd gotten a ride. They didn't return to Amherst because there was a bad storm and they had to return to Norwood the next morning.
This is the person from whom she borrowed the scrubs.
Question: We've been told that Maura returned the laundered scrubs to this student on Monday, Feb. 9th. Did she drive the Saturn to Norwood to return them?
Anyone know the student's name?
Did the PIs interview her?
Did she verify what we've been told?
What time did she see Maura?
Did she notice anything unusual about Maura's mood?
Did Maura tell her she was going to be absent for awhile due to a death in the family?
Did they discuss the impact her absence might have on Maura getting credit for the semester?
Fred

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White Wash wrote:

Well I believe after 12 midnight it becomes the next day!
So it appears that the student who saw Maura
Sunday would have had to seen her prior to her
taking Fred's car back.
Or he did see her Sunday Morning and some has
her drop off time of 2 PM on Sunday wrong.
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Dawn wrote:

Maybe my memory is off today - but wasn't there a photo somewhere of the apartment she stayed at - a grey building two story on a corner ? or am I thinking of another missing persons case?

peripeteia wrote:

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If I recall correctly Maura left the scrubs somewhere for her friend to pick up? I do not
believe that it was said that she drove to her friends home to return them on Monday. But someone correct me, sorry to be out of sync, reading backwards from the last post.

Dawn wrote:

WTF - I think you are our resident mathmatical expert..
I am not a statician - think that is what Mason called it.
After reading Mason/EB info on the other murders to figure out an average of crimes per capita wouldn't the following be the formula.. I'm not a math expert by any means -
square milage - residents = total divide by crimes.( several answers - divide by murders, missing persons, rapes etc.. You could do this for any area in the US - wouldn't that be a fair equastion?

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Lady Gray wrote:

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Don't think this was accidental, but have always found it to be curious....due to the date and the location.
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncm...

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Dawn wrote:

Very Exciting news.......... I hope this goes through.
Justice.. Closure.. Answers for the Murray Family.....
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...
NH task force - I have a google alert set for Maura Murray - this was so nice to see.

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Dawn wrote:

I will let it go. However, I still find it hard to believe " she found out" the song was on the site. The posts never said she asked to hear it. The post said she played it for her twice - then the follow up said she didn't know the song was on a site. Stikes me as odd - since it was on the family website. Not sure what is hard to follow on those ones - pretty straight forward. So I asked... I thought she was a stranger too prior to the accident - but you corrected me - so I'm not assuming that.She also had a copy of the song - she held a small boom box playing it.
Seems odd to me - having a sister - I just think under the circumstances - just odd.
Read back to the post that Citigirl was appauled to.. I dunno - I was PRO searches and was trying to point out that some locals - don't want people going on their property year after year... I was trying to point out - that I would not mind if people searched my land - would even feed them. I would want them to find Maura - and the perp - before he strikes again.

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sophie bean wrote:

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How interesting - would this eliminate the already-existing Major Crimes Unit which is, according to the NHSP website, already supposed to be investigating these cases?
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/missi...

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Lady Gray wrote:

Another "accidental" death....
On Tuesday, June 3, 1997, at about 3 p.m., investigating state police officers found the bodies of two prominent ufologists in a campground in northern New Hampshire (N.H.).
The bodies of George W. Perry, 50, of East Providence, Rhode Island and Keith Begnoche, 22, of Blackstone, Massachusetts were found in a tent at the Dolly Copp Campground, located off Route 16 in Pinkham's Grant, N.H. Relatives of the dead men called the police on Monday after Perry and Begnoche failed to return from their weekend camping trip to Mount Washington.
Read this link for more info on circumstances:
http://keelynet.com/energy/perry.htm

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text>I travel to Canada on a pretty regular basis--several times a year, and have always travelled there since being a kid--at least several times a year--soemtimes monthly. Until recently, most times I was simply asked where I was going, what I was going for, and how long I'd be there. It was actually coming back into the US that created the problems--they sometimes owuld search the car, go through my luggage, ask for an ID. Now it requires a passport, but until recently it was very easy to go in and out wihtout showing an ID or birth certificate for the most part. I typically cross at the Derby line--Derby VT. Rte 91.

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Dawn wrote:

Now for the what 5th time today - I have said get back to Maura Murray... Not one post insluting me has even brought the subject back to Maura.
Headway was made with the hearings yesterday. This could crack the case.
interesting no one wants to talk about that. I sent the links. This is one of the BIGGEST BREAKS in the case in 5 years - but old school banter seems to be more fun.
I am very excited about the new information and will be following it closely to see what NH decides to do.
I don't see anything else I could do but what i have done - so tell me please - to whom this had nothing to do - how do I take this louse off of me or not be a hypocrite - since I fixed it weeks ago.. Please .. Please do tell.

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Suzanne wrote:

NH LE has done BRILLIANT work in the recent past. Half and Suzanne Zantop, Dartmouth professors, brutally slaughtered in their own home one bright and sunny Saturday morning. I thought the killer was the visiting volcanologist from Arizona, then I thought the killer was the former Mossad guy from Israel who killed 2 young men in Boston. The high level sleuthing on the part of NH LE resulted in the conviction and incarceration of the 2 real murderers . If it were up to me I probably would have put the poor innocent volcanologist in prison. And then their is the Pam Smart case - equally good work on the part of NH LE.

Mason wrote:

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Might not be a bad idea to replace them, given the number of unsolved homicides. I can't say, based on the materials I have reviewed, that Troop F, or F Troop as I prefer to call them, can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Fred

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WTF-the-original wrote:

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This is NOT my area of expertise but, typically a statistician will normalize data to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. With these types of statistics it is common to use a per 100,000 rate. That is simply done by taking whatever the number of murders or rapes are in a specific area and dividing that number by the number of people in the area and then multiplying that number by 100,000. That results in a normalized value for that area. i.e. 60 murders in a city of 1,000,000 results in a murder rate of 6 murders per 100,000 while 60 murders in a city of 200,000 results in a murder rate of 30 murders per 100,000. Like I have said before though those numbers sometimes have less meaning than the raw number. Especially when you are dealing with a town of 4000 or 400. One death in such a town looks impressive. In a town of 400 a rate of 30 per 100,000 would mean you would have a murder every 8.5 years. Of course one murder in that same town means a rate of 250 per 100,000 for that year. Those are interesting statistics and people can draw wild conclusions from them but the actually have little meaning. If you have a town of 2 people and one murders the other you have a murder rate of 50,000 per 100,000 for that town or if they managed to kill each other 100,000 per 100,000. Sounds impressive, doesn’t it? The statistic is correct, half or in the second case the entire town was wiped out. But how much actual meaning does it have? If you normalized the data on a per 100 or per 10 than those areas would be normalized to have more meaning when looking at areas like that. Then you have the problem that you have wild swings the other direction.
And statistics can be sliced and diced depending on what information you are trying to mine.....or hide as the case may be.
Bill