Where is MAURA MURRAY

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Snowy White wrote:

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warning: off-topic
who, moi? the moon?!? seemed like it was quite full a week ago??!
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welcome to the real world of corporate greed/welfare at the top, the unions in the middle, and entitled slackers at the bottom. they've all consumed more than our share of our immediate and future prosperity.
outrageous.
the rules have changed; education, work ethic, loyalty, and even finesse are irrelevant to personal economic security.
outrageous.
manufacturing has sustained and held its losses over many years. but that was "them" and not "us". now it's "us", too.
outrageous.
we serve our civil servants; by union representation they've demanded and have locked in better deals - do they work harder or better than you do?
we're bleeding better be outraged.
save us, Tim Geithner.

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Mason wrote:

I've noticed some surprise and questions about Peri's assertion that there were three other witnesses in the Westman's home. I checked it out and this is what I found.
In Message #16304 at page 809, Peri said,
"We have never heard if the other members of the household were watching, the elderly Mr. Westman now deceased, and the Westman's son and daughter."

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Snowy White wrote:

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warning: off-topic
who, moi? the moon?!? seemed like it was quite full a week ago??!
off-topic:
welcome to the real world of corporate greed/welfare at the top, the unions in the middle, and entitled slackers at the bottom. they've all consumed more than our share of our immediate and future prosperity.
outrageous.
the rules have changed; education, work ethic, loyalty, and even finesse are irrelevant to personal economic security.
outrageous.
manufacturing has sustained and held its losses over many years. but that was "them" and not "us". now it's "us", too.
outrageous.
we serve our civil servants; by union representation they've demanded and have locked in better deals - do they work harder or better than you do?
we're bleeding better be outraged.
save us, Tim Geithner.

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Convict, indeed. Just look at the results of the 2000 Presidential election in Florida. And those who led Nader's campaign in the SunBiz state.

Wowzer wrote:

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This is something I'd like to know also as it has had me confused since I heard it. Where did this information come from?

Wowzer wrote:

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I totally agree.

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FireCat wrote:

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The fact remains that the public doesn't have a right to any of that information.
Do you have the right to know where *I* work? Not unless I tell you. So why do people think they have an automatic right to know where Maura worked? Just because she's gone missing, her ENTIRE life becomes fair game for the curious public, no matter how good, or how ill, their intention?
It doesn't work like that.
I believe that Maura's father DOES know the name of the gallery where she works. I don't know that for a fact, but I'm pretty sure he does. If he, LE, or the PIs decide that it's a useful and helpful piece of information for the public to have, they'll make it public. Until then, the public has to deal with getting what we get.
For the eight hundredth time.

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FireCat wrote:

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For the eight hundredth time.

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peripeteia wrote:

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His lies make him the author of his own misfortune, let it be a byword to others who try to help to keep their stories straight. No one slandered him, he slandered himself. He refused to set matters straight with Healy who visited him in Florida, his chance to vindicate himself.
A good smaritan does not lie.
She was drunk, she wasn't drunk
he got off the bus
he did not get off the bus
he checked out the car for damage
he was no more than 15 feet near to the girl
we went straight home
witness says he stayed on his bus a long time
he called 911 at 1943
he was not in at 1943 when Haverhill called back
to confirm information
airbags deployed in face and could only see her from lips up
he got a real good look at her
other witness state man smoking a cigarette
he was a former police office, not true
any discerning person including a child would have trouble with his varying statements
police refuse to comment on his statements, therefore the problem of his veracity is pepetuated by the police. Also police are witholding the information from the 911 to Hanover.
Suzanne: If Maura was your daughter, how well would his statements sit with you, not too well I would venture. I'd have had his butt in court in a heart beat.
He is lucky not to be charged with obstruction of justice, it is a criminal offense to lie in an investigation.
Private investigators state that he has not been truthful. It is unlikely that he harmed Maura but as far as a reliable witnesses, he is not.
His stories can not all be put off to BAD reporting, which there is no lack of..

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Beagle wrote:

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Firecat asks, "So why do people think they have an automatic right to know where Maura worked?"
Answer: 1) Because Maura is missing. 2) Innocent people have been viewed, with no restraint, by vigilantes, acting under the guidance of PIs, as suspicious and put through hell. 3)Most people don't want another disappearance to happen.

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peripeteia wrote:

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He was just plain nasty when anyone did not agree with him

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The Web Whisperer wrote:

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White Wash wrote:

I don't believe Mr.Westman is deceased!
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Wowzer wrote:

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It's a known fact that the more someone is questioned, the more their story will change as to what they saw. This was an older man that was questioned a million times by several people, LE, family, PI,strangers, etc.
Wasn't it the PI that hunted him down at his new home in FL that he refused to speak to? I would have refused to speak to him too after being put thru hell, moving away and then have strangers track me down to question me further. He heard what people were saying about him, it was in one of the newspaper articles that he was hurt by what they thought after all he tried to do was help her.
You seem to be stuck on the SBD and yes Peri he was slandered and his reputation was most certainly harmed by people like you.
As much as you would like everyone within a mile to be dragged in to take a lie detector test, a grand jury called,and people to be charged with obstruction of justice keep in mind that as far as we know there is still NO evidence that a crime has even been commited.
Your stories and facts change also on this forum and you have been corrected before for stating something that was wrong. Because of this would you say you are a liar or that after all the mountains of bullshit you were just confused?

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Dawn wrote:

I have to add - I do think it is ODD at the time she vanished - it was not mentioned where she worked. If you look at the Keese case and even Molly Bish - the mention the places they were last scene - maybe she popped in on Sunday to bring a co worker a latte etc. It also would allow students who didn't know her by name but new her from the gallery - to say - oh yeah.. i saw her on 2nd ave ( example). Most missing cases if you look at the websites even Brianna's tell very detailed descriptions - where they worked - etc.. I do think more should have been said about the little details - clinicals, gallery, security etc... people could have witnesses a stalker but did not put two and two together

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Old Timer wrote:

Mr. W is alive and well. Why did the old man cross the road?

Old Timer wrote:

Mr. W is alive and well. Why did the old man cross the road?

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FireCat wrote:

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For the eight hundredth time.