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#16970
Mar 17, 2009
 
hi all,oops i meant to say the other site.take care philip
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Atwood asked Maura if he could call and she replied she had called AAA.
Of course there is no cell services so he
called 911.
Yes Northland was on that week for dispatch so
when he the call on the scanner he rolled!
Dispatch in error in the mean time had called
Lavoies who rolled as well.
So yes there where 2 flatbeds at the accident.
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Paris, help me out here..I believe someone stopped and asked her if they could call a wrecker for her..and that was why she said she already had called AAA..to sbd. I hadn't given it much thought until WW confirmed there were 2 wreckers at the scene. I thought it was discussed in the first mmm forum but maybe I read it in a paper. White Wash, do you remember this mentioned?
White Wash

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The reason why is people can not accept the TRUTH of the situation!
Wowzer wrote:
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There is a reason why Weeper and the group of professional PI's that are working on this don't come on the public forums badmouthing the LE and the locals as DC has done and that is because they are acting professionally by gathering information and not starting rumors or insinuationg that someone is guilty when there is no proof. Hell even if there was proof a respected and true PI would not state it on a public forum.
Yes WW there is wrong information being given out IMO and maybe it's time to figure out the reason why.
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Of course he did FireCat why list the names?

If you go back to review his posts they say what
FIT and forum.

Regardless the DUCK/FIT attacked anyone and everyone who posted anything not to the FIT theory!
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I don't think it was. I think--in my own recollection, I'll have to go back and check my records, which I have found (thank you god!!)--that Weeper listed some names off the top of his head as he recalled them from being frequent posters, but also gave a general, blanket sort of "and anyone else I may have forgotten to name" statement.
It's not my understanding that Weeper EVER meant to exclude anyone who'd ever posted on a forum, simply because he didn't recognise them by name. Since it seems to matter so much to people, I will go search for that post--it may take a while, because (a) there are, you recall, some 580 pages of them,(b) I'm not sure if I can search or if I just have to wade in, and (c) I have to teach four classes in the next 24 hours so I may not get to it soon.
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If there where cases being worked on that information has been removed!
You will not find a complete copy of the whole
log that has been released to the public!
Dawn wrote:
Actually there are other pages - even more suspicous 24 and 25.......... ODD
White Wash

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Well was the rag in the pipe when you
treapassed on Lavoies and NHSP property without permission to look at it?

Answer you should have!
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I don't believe that Maura was the one who put the rag in the tailpipe. I wonder if the rag was ever tested by the crime lab. Although the rag was left in the tailpipe for the ride to Lavoie's garage on a flatbed/rolloff wrecker.
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See the Star PI witness states above someone could
be seen walking around the car then wouldn't that
make the star witness wrong if you don't believe
it was Maura who was it?
Wasn't there another cup inside that car that has
been tested hum wouldn't that explain why the air
bags have been cut maybe a little DNA testing and
maybe a rough count of alcohol expelled by the driver?

Do you honest believe that HAS BEEN SENT TO THE LAB?

If you don't then why isn't you BOSS stating his
daughter wasn't driving that car?
Why is it that Fred has changed from the no proof she was drinking to who cares if she was?
Why???
Detective Columbo wrote:
I don't believe that Maura was the one who put the rag in the tailpipe. I wonder if the rag was ever tested by the crime lab. Although the rag was left in the tailpipe for the ride to Lavoie's garage on a flatbed/rolloff wrecker.
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1. In terms of facts and of getting a sense of the character of people involved, as witnesses or LE investigators, I WOULD LISTEN TO WHITE WASH. Period. She must get furious, like I would, if people I KNEW were described incorrectly.

2. I do, however, wish that the FBI had been called in to participate in (or take over) the case of Maura's disappearance.

3. It's possible that everyone except us posters knows who the perp is and is just waiting to collect enough evidence for an air-tight case.

Glad to hear from you, paris!
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#16978
Mar 17, 2009
 
hi Firecat and all.I was wrong the black backpack was reported in a later BOL and not Feb. 10th.The original post here by Firecat is post # 16642 and is a quote from the Whitman Hanson Express.I will try yet again today to get a reply from UMASS Nursing about when clinicals actually started in Norwood.I believe right now that when Maura was at umass they had not begun.If i am wrong thats fine and i will contact the 3 people that tell me otherwise and ask them to check again.take care philip
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Mar 17, 2009
 
hi all , i have never seen anyone say they saw the any tow truck arrive.My experience has been many times that they show up with the orange lights flashing and they put out a lot of light over a great distance .They also have the rearview flood lights to help the operator with the vehicle.Again i am back to the accident report and the strange timeline and it being the only reference to the tow truck arriving.take care philip
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I want the correct information out there!
I am not saying I haven't been miss informed
or wrong but I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I AM!

People can make up their own minds but it
won't change the facts of this case!

Fact Maura's car was stored on Private Property at Lavoies not on the main drag so if Det. Col.
WAS THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION which it appears to be possible since the Manager couldn't find a Det. Col business card then he was indeed
trespassing!

The car was behind a posted section at NHSP
so anyone there without permission was trespassing.

According to Chief Williams the FBI meet w/NHSP,MA LE,in Keene NH they where also
involved in the interviewing at the campus!
I'm sorry I don't believe ANYONE BUT THE FBI
choice not to be more involved!
quija wrote:
1. In terms of facts and of getting a sense of the character of people involved, as witnesses or LE investigators, I WOULD LISTEN TO WHITE WASH. Period. She must get furious, like I would, if people I KNEW were described incorrectly.
2. I do, however, wish that the FBI had been called in to participate in (or take over) the case of Maura's disappearance.
3. It's possible that everyone except us posters knows who the perp is and is just waiting to collect enough evidence for an air-tight case.
Glad to hear from you, paris!
White Wash

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I don't believe I know it all either but
I do want you to know what I know like
the neighbor who told Wini who called Fred.
For you people to be told it was over heard
at the Stage Stop is wrong especially since
I know the women personally.
And know exactly how that happened.
Lots of people relaid information but you need
to remember as it goes down the line it's subject to the tellers views and opinion.
Remember the game of telephone don't let that
keep side tracking the awesome out of the box thinking!
White Wash

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#16982
Mar 17, 2009
 
Whiston,
I'm not sure but the wrecker should be arrived by
dispatch I believe check the log.
whiston wrote:
hi all , i have never seen anyone say they saw the any tow truck arrive.My experience has been many times that they show up with the orange lights flashing and they put out a lot of light over a great distance .They also have the rearview flood lights to help the operator with the vehicle.Again i am back to the accident report and the strange timeline and it being the only reference to the tow truck arriving.take care philip
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#16983
Mar 17, 2009
 
The Whiston would have found a record of the call with AAA.

And would have Faith Westman mentioned seeing someone prior to Atwood?

Isn't Butch quoted as say "she said she had calle?"
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So are you saying Anne that the SBD was NOT the only person to stop and offer Maura help and someone else spoke to her and told her they would call for a tow truck? Am I missing something?
All this time it's been stated that he was the only one to see her up close and talk to her and now there actually was someone else that talked to her? Is this correct or am I misunderstanding?
White Wash

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#16984
Mar 17, 2009
 
Just for the record it was my family that searched that night and my family where the car was impounded Paris!

I just took pictures of the search and interviewed
neighbors and LE and spoke via email/phone to certain Murray Family members.
paris wrote:
When White Wash or photogirl came on the old to forum to say that she and others had stopped to help look for Maura that night, I was deeply touched and greatful. Not only that there was a much bigger effort taking place to find Maura than we knew, but because it made me feel good that so many cared. Then RO at some point let it be known that someone was looking for another, possibly on foot and did she perhaps see anyone on foot. For all the times the pitbull in me came out, it was because I was defending something I thought was true.
I was never a part of any "click", if there was one and spent a good amount of time pouting on the MMM forums. I felt ignored, but then I am a big baby that way. I tried to stay on the subject and it's not easy for me to stay on any subject unless I am angry. It was only me though, beginning to realize that i didn't have to have feedback or PM's to be heard and i wasn't there for that anyway, i was there to help figure what happened to Maura.
Peri, I never did thank you for the time you helped me to see my ways. Thank you.
And Beagle Bart, while I'm at it, I'm sorry that I said keep it to yourself. I didn't mean it that way. Your ideas are all worth reading and concidering. The mistake I made was to quote you.
Snowy, you are so right. Without being in ones company, it is hard to make one out.
White Wash

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From the people I have spoken with they
are tired of the negative press and remarks!
They want to be asked if there property can be
searched or parked on!
They just wanted to be treated with the same
respect they treated all in the beginning!
I think I've met anyone who wants the searching to stop or the case not to be solved!
Just without all the BS it has created!
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To ask someone to stop asking a question is - Diversion! Every town has one...... interesting that Haverhill is an exception to the rule. Word sure got around that Fred was looking......... If everyone wants people to STOP searching. Why not come forward and say - Ok. please stop it - we are tired of it. Here is WHAT we do know.. Now leave us alone!!!!
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And many of the residents are her KIN and
she herself owns a camp in NH go figure!
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Shack has a long (60+ years) history of animosity with the residents of NH. She uses Maura's forums as a vehicle for settling old scores.
White Wash

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TM was peeling the orange!
F&TW where in their front room
working on the the 1st Mac ever built Faith
heard a thud went to the kitchen window and
called 911 with a cordless phone older than Maura!
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Shack Faith Westman was peeling an orange, she looked out the window then peeled an orange then went back to looking out the window.
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But the fact is that she choose not to tell them did she!
Why?
Why only email someone?
paris wrote:
On the subject of running away from your own family. I'll have Maura the example here. She was close to everyone including her siblings. They seem to think that they would have known if something was going on. Julie was a runner too and a motivation for Maura to go to West point I believe. Kathleen and Maura spoke by phone nearly every single day. All the pictures I have seen show family together and looking glad that they are about to be captured on film. Nana is like an idol to her, she seemed to respect and adore all members.
Even though Maura had left home and the family was growing to include Sharon, the closeness is/was evident..........
So it's easy to wonder how Maura could just up and start a new life without them.
Now if there's any chance that it started out as a way to avoid being sent to jail for example, re: did she or her car hit Mr Vasi..........well, maybe time will tell.
If it's that she just felt the need to throw in the towel, I scratch my head there too.
Because of my own family dynamics and the closeness we have always shared, I just can't put my mind around Maura running away or committing the unthinkable.
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All agree with a Pfft.......
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FIT = Those who followed the Murray Family rules.
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