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the reported phone call received by Billy is convincing evidence to me that Maura may have been taken and/or held against her will at some point prior to her confirmed disappearance.
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Hi SW, I think the following is good thinking, I can't remember who said it: If Maura was kidnapped and held captive what are the chances that she would be able to access her cell and make a call, however brief? Whoever wrote this offered that it is more likely that she was on her own and just wanted to hear Billy's voice "one more time" before making the final break.
Which would be why he and Sharon heard sounds of her crying. Sharon said she has heard Maura crying when Billy leaves and she recognized these cry's as being Maura's. Very sad.

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Mar 26, 2009
 
Snowy White wrote:
life is short. that much i know.
Very, very, very short.

“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

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Mar 26, 2009
 
hi, Suzanne, quija and all ~ aside from my expressing a general sentiment about being steadfast and committed to finding one's daughter/son, i agree that this and similar forum efforts are hampered by incomplete information...whether unknown and/or undisclosed.

i, too, am of the opinion that this platform has outlived its usefulness by ruling in and ruling out what has been obvious, and for being at a disadvantage to fill in the holes.

i admire the self-reflection i continue to see here...keeps us honest.

good night...
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BeagleBart wrote:
Oh, speaking earlier of the storage unit set-up biz, I noticed tonight there's a couple in town from Delaware whom I met almost two years ago at a Brattleboro storage unit facility right after they had transported stuff north from the Philadelphia and Greenwich CT areas up to Brat to be sold in a local auction.(Never, ever sell near where the stuff came from.) Dark slate-blue Ford expedition, Delaware tags, with a U-Haul trailer. Trailer had Ontario reg plate M12-082. Were parked here on the 200 block of Federal St for a while.
The Brattleboro storage unit owner I knew held the paper on the Bowman property from which Tina and Bethany Sinclair are believed to have disappeared in February, 2001.
So weird to buy things at the local auctions that have so many connections to missing or murdered people. Not sure why that happens. I'll never forget being offered practically a library of books that had previously belonged to a convicted ex-priest rapist from the Worcester Diocese. Really gave me the chills, especially when I discovered that he was in frequent contact with people searching for Molly Bish. Very weird world.
And then I found out recently that the Springfield RC Diocese gave - totally free - in 1980 a building lot in Chicopee Falls to the brother of the woman who was imitating Frank Kelly on YouTube. Their father had shot their mother to death at a truck stop about 16 years earlier.(Ooops, I think I already posted this. Sorry.) The mother was getting ready, with the assistance of her neighbors, the Monahans, to leave her husband. Horrible story. The appeal is online. She is also investigating the Molly Bish case. She has worked for my brother's best friend's jet charter company, Key Air, the biz that bribed Gov. John G. Rowland out of office and into federal prison in 2004/2005. Ex-military, close quarters combat training, bartender in Amherst area... Sorry if I've mentioned this before.
Hi Beagle,
or whatever your real name is. Please stop slandering me. I have no idea what you're talking about...neither do you. I found this blog/forum by google this evening & am not familiar with this case. I don't imitate people, I don't watch the news, I don't even have a TV.
My great uncle owned that land and his father before him, owned (bought and paid)it before him.

I do not know how to make or put up on the internet a YouTube faking someone named Kelly about this poor Murray woman..on a site you keep mentioning but not referencing??? You have the wrong person. I'm a neutral, I am old, my military training was from the Cold War, it is old too.

My "surveillance" was on submarines, it's over, the Cold War is over. I never dug through garbage, I would never interfere with a murder investigation! I do volunteer work with kittens, Veterans, and children's organizations now. How about that, how do you feel about slandering me now?

Leave my poor Grandmother, Stella's, non-mysterious, half a century old, none of your concerns' case out-of-this. If you are too lazy to get those facts correct, it is an insult to me, and puts all your comments at risk of heresay.

I cannot find this youtube thing you speak of after searching to see if someone even claimed to be me!! Therefore, I don't even know if you made it up. Hence do not use my name or background to further your motives.

~Susan.
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Mar 27, 2009
 
hi all,about the call to Billy.I assume Mauras cell phone number wold have come up in his phone if she had used her OWN cellphone.There are payphone maps for the area,how up to date they are i dont' know.Firecat i am sorry some of Mauras friends did post hopes and prayers on the former and other sites.

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Hi SW, I think the following is good thinking, I can't remember who said it: If Maura was kidnapped and held captive what are the chances that she would be able to access her cell and make a call, however brief? Whoever wrote this offered that it is more likely that she was on her own and just wanted to hear Billy's voice "one more time" before making the final break.
Which would be why he and Sharon heard sounds of her crying. Sharon said she has heard Maura crying when Billy leaves and she recognized these cry's as being Maura's. Very sad.
Good night all.
If Maura did make the call she did not do so from her cell phone, there was no record of the call being made from Maura's cell, so she had to use another phone if indeed it was her calling Billy. Information given by Sharon from cell phone bill.

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whiston wrote:
Hi Dawn ,i asked the same question and again we are back to Mauras ' prior life which was a mess.Amy Markopoulos joined MrMurray for a drink or dinner at the Amherst Brewing Co after a race in R.I.I have never been clear as to if they both dropped mr Murray off at his motel or it was just Maura or why did he expected her later.Nobody from Mauras prior life that actually knew Maura has ever posted anywhere.I have to think they just dont' care or they know something.When will they give that ATM video to mr Murray so he can see who is on it and if the saturn is visible or at least know if Maura was taking cash from the correct ATM.TAKE CARE PHILIP
Do not believe your statement is quiet true that no one who ever knew Maura posted before, and I believe it was Kate M who had the drinks with Maura and her Father. Saying Maura's life was a mess is a bit of a stretch, I certainly don't view her life as a mess, in a melt down maybe but a mess, no she had a brillant future to look forward to

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quija wrote:
There is no evidence of foul play (as far as I know) and I regret the years of speculating about the Rt. 112 neighbors who were good enough to come forward as witnesses.
I regret that the idealized image given to us of Maura didn't seem "real" since we all have flaws. It's too bad that being fed this image for years caused many of us to seek out the facts of Maura's life, as well our wide range of scenarios. Had we been given a truer image of this bright, beautiful athlete, we might not have been forced to continue with often wild and hurtful speculations. It appears one reason we were fed this idealized image was to keep us from even considering that Maura might have run away or taken her own life.
How many snippets of information (e.g., blood in the A-frame house) that had nothing to do with Maura (apparently) were dropped on us to keep us focused on evil goings-on in the area or a serial killer? There seems to be a huge whitewash here!!!(Sorry WHITE WASH!) And I would blame the whitewashing for bringing out our human nature --- looking for facts.
CW did not come forward, he was ratted to the police by someone in the neighbourhood, re: bragging how he saw a youth re: witcherville area on the 112.

The school bus driver told falsehoods, reA: drinking not drinking, lying to the family saying she was not drinking, telling police she was. Saying he was a former police man. His version of what he did after he left the accident scene does not match his neighbours.

So the impression you give of helpful neighbours is not one of truth, yes some neighbours were helpful, but not all.

Maura was not idolized, in fact every tom dick and harry has had their 15 minutes of fame saying horrible things about her and her family.

Law enforcement considers Maura's disappearance a criminal investigation, therefore, the notion that she ran away or committed suicide are out.

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Suzanne wrote:
There is no evidence that a crime was committed, none, nada, zero, zilch.
Then why is Maura's disappearance a criminal investigation. Explain this please, why is the investigation to be transfered to the newly planned cold case squad.
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CW did not come forward, he was ratted to the police by someone in the neighbourhood, re: bragging how he saw a youth re: witcherville area on the 112.
The school bus driver told falsehoods, reA: drinking not drinking, lying to the family saying she was not drinking, telling police she was. Saying he was a former police man. His version of what he did after he left the accident scene does not match his neighbours.
So the impression you give of helpful neighbours is not one of truth, yes some neighbours were helpful, but not all.
Maura was not idolized, in fact every tom dick and harry has had their 15 minutes of fame saying horrible things about her and her family.
Law enforcement considers Maura's disappearance a criminal investigation, therefore, the notion that she ran away or committed suicide are out.
So you're saying a peson can't run away and THEN meet up with something more sinister later in the journey?

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This morning I awake, and read the usual bashing of one another, and now see poor Maura is accused of possibily sleeping around, perhaps she is a kleptomaniac, suffering from mental illness, and what terrible people we were on the MMM forum for seeking the truth from an untruthful witnesses, and that no bad happens in Haverhill. WOW!

If law enforcement felt that Maura's disappearance had nothing to do with Haverhill or New Hampshire, they would have handed this investigation back to Mass. Also since it is a criminal investigation this says Maura did not run away.

I find it very stale the bashing of people and the demoralization of Maura and her family, and the protectiveness for a place wanting. It is what it is, and all the beliefs of people do not change the fact that Maura disappeared from Haverhill.

How many people who write here have written to law enforcement, their representative in the congress, assemblymen, mayor regarding this case. Yet law enforcement says they have 100 unsolved cases, and is looking at a cold case squad to investigate these disappearance and murders. Gee for such a safe place, seems like either people are poorly informed or not grounded in reality.
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It appears that some people here have unearther information about Maura prior to her disappearance that is putting them more "at ease" with her disappearance. I think that's wonderful but I also see that there are still some people unable/unwilling to think outside the box and that are immediately drawn to blaming others in the community of Haverhill (the big conspiracy theory---LE, CW and SBD apparently had a plan for the get go to hide information).

If you aren't open to Maura disappearing of her own volition, please dont push the others to prove it. Defensively, someone may end up posting a truth that DOESN'T need to be known to the public--something that may really do character damage to someone from Maura's previous life. Please be very careful in the blame game......and think with an open mind.

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Looking4AMoose wrote:
<quoted text>So you're saying a peson can't run away and THEN meet up with something more sinister later in the journey?
no, it is possible to meet with something sinister anywhere. But the fact that the investigation is centred in Haverhill says that she met with harm there, disappeared from harm. Who ever picked Maura up, picked her up near the crash site.

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Mar 27, 2009
 
above should read, disappeared from "there", not harm., sorry for the error
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peripeteia wrote:
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no, it is possible to meet with something sinister anywhere. But the fact that the investigation is centred in Haverhill says that she met with harm there, disappeared from harm. Who ever picked Maura up, picked her up near the crash site.
but that doesn't mean they are from Haverhill.....evidence may exist there from the transition from the saturn to their vehicle, but it could have been something prearranged, that went off exactly as planned, but later went awry..........or maybe the criminal investigation isn't about Maura's demise at all....maybe it's some other crime associated with her disappearance
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Mar 27, 2009
 
Hi Peripeteia.My mistake .I should have said Kate Markopoulos and not Amy Markopoulos.I dont' know what the difference is between a meltdown and a mess but neither one is good.Who called in the accident in Hadley.Any thought please.take care philip
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Mar 27, 2009
 
Thanks for posting!
ScooterD wrote:
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Sorry Bill - I just found the article posted from the project jason site:
Post by: Denise on May 19, 2007, 11:27:10 PM
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Skeletal remains found are too old to be missing Mass. woman
By MICHAEL COUSINEAU
Union Leader Staff
www.theunionleader.com
A hiker out on a scavenger hunt Friday discovered human skeletal remains in a rugged and remote region of Mount Kancamagus east of Lincoln, state police said last night.
Police quickly ruled out that the remains belonged to Maura Murray, the Massachusetts woman who disappeared from Haverhill on Feb. 9. The remains are believed to be at least several years old.
“We’re looking into any missing persons/hikers reported missing from that area, and I’m aware of one and maybe two from the last decade who were in fact missing and not found,” State Police Lt. John Scarinza told the Sunday News last night.
Authorities hadn’t determined whether the remains were of a man or woman.
“We’re going to send the remains to the medical examiner for identification and cause of death,” he said.
A jacket and sneaker were found at the site. Scarinza said the items “appeared to have been out in the elements for quite a long time.” No further details were available.
The hiker reported his discovery to State Police Friday and authorities waited for sufficient light before heading out with the hiker yesterday to find and recover the remains in an area more than 3,000 feet in elevation, he said.
“It’s certainly safe to say he was bushwacking off the trail, which is probably why he had located the remains and others have not through some pretty rugged terrain up there,” Scarinza said.
He said the hiker, whose name wasn’t available, was participating in a treasure hunt....
Members from State Police, the New Hampshire Fish and Game and the U.S. Forest Service removed the remains from the mountain, which is located south of Route 112 in the town of Livermore, about 8 miles from the center of Lincoln. Authorities took approximately nine hours to reach the site and return with the remains.
The skeletal remains were found about 25 miles east from where Murray was last seen. The discovery isn’t unprecedented.
“In my career in the past 25 years, I know of at least several occasions where skeletal remains have been found in northern New Hampshire,” Scarinza said.
Meanwhile, the families of two missing women came together in Haverhill yesterday to plead for help from the public and federal authorities.
Fred Murray’s daughter, Maura, 21, disappeared on Feb. 9 in Haverhill after a car accident.
The Weymouth, Mass., man was joined by Bruce and Kellie Maitland of East Franklin, Vt., whose daughter, Brianna, 17, was last seen on March 19.
Also lending their support were Charlotte and Michael Riley of Chester, parents of 20-year-old Amie Riley, who was last seen leaving a Manchester bar in August. Her body was found last month in a marsh.
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Corruption is a wonderful thing isn't it?
No it's not but atleast you stepped up to
address it more than most do so THANK YOU!
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WW wrote:
"Just wondering who you reported these issues to cause if you are not part of the solution then
that makes one part of the problem yes?"
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Two (2) times I called people on this stuff and was told to mind my own business or there would be hell to pay. I also called Concord and was told it would be looked into. Nothing was ever done about it so I had nowhere else to go with it. Corruption is a wonderful thing isn't it?
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This is FALSE information!
First off CW told his neighbor and wife they
told him to call NHSP.
The neighbor wife said something to Wini who called Fred!
In the mean time CW had gone to the police!
Read the articles as well.
This information came directly from someone involved!
peripeteia wrote:
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CW did not come forward, he was ratted to the police by someone in the neighbourhood, re: bragging how he saw a youth re: witcherville area on the 112.
The school bus driver told falsehoods, reA: drinking not drinking, lying to the family saying she was not drinking, telling police she was. Saying he was a former police man. His version of what he did after he left the accident scene does not match his neighbours.
So the impression you give of helpful neighbours is not one of truth, yes some neighbours were helpful, but not all.
Maura was not idolized, in fact every tom dick and harry has had their 15 minutes of fame saying horrible things about her and her family.
Law enforcement considers Maura's disappearance a criminal investigation, therefore, the notion that she ran away or committed suicide are out.
White Wash

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Did LE find it belowed to a calling card so
a number indeed came up!
whiston wrote:
hi all,about the call to Billy.I assume Mauras cell phone number wold have come up in his phone if she had used her OWN cellphone.There are payphone maps for the area,how up to date they are i dont' know.Firecat i am sorry some of Mauras friends did post hopes and prayers on the former and other sites.
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