Where is MAURA MURRAY

The answers have been right in front of us all along.

We just had to figure out the right questions to ask.

Who is responsible for making it almost impossible to figure out the right questions to ask?

Advocator wrote:

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Just playing devil's advocate here: We don't know for a fact that Sgt. Smith had no reason to lie, do we? I can envision reasons he might lie, just as much as I can envision reasons Fred might.

I can't. As I've said before, he did an exemplary job investigating the accident Monday night. He actually did a better job than I would have expected from most police officers.

Fred's statement that he would have saved Maura's life, if he had bothered to walk a few hundred feet up the 112 toward the SBD's house is false because we know from the dog scent evidence that she got into a vehicle and left the area before he arrived.

He would have seen her, if she was still there because she and the vehicle she got into would have been visible.

Although Fred Murray has stated that he wasn't upset about Maura wrecking his new Corolla, we know she was really concerned about how he was going to react when she told him.

She called Billy on Sunday morning at approximately 3:30 am his time and he had to talk to her for quite awhile to calm her down.

Maura isn't available to tell us how her father reacted.

What might his reaction have been, if he picked her up at the scene of her accident with the Saturn?

Mason wrote:

I can't. As I've said before, he did an exemplary job investigating the accident Monday night. He actually did a better job than I would have expected from most police officers.

Sgt. Smith may have done an exemplary job, but the report substantiating that is his report, so in essence we only have his word that he did a good/better/best job. As I recall, he checked in the westerly direction along SR 112, but not in the easterly direction and also apparently not up Bradley Hill Road.

Mason wrote:

Fred's statement that he would have saved Maura's life, if he had bothered to walk a few hundred feet up the 112 toward the SBD's house is false because we know from the dog scent evidence that she got into a vehicle and left the area before he arrived.
He would have seen her, if she was still there because she and the vehicle she got into would have been visible.

Yes, we know now that the dog scent evidence ended more or less at the Bradley Hill intersection, but Smith didn't know that at the time. I agree that Smith likely would not have found Maura by checking east on 112 and up Bradley Hill some distance, given the dog scent evidence, but at the time it would have been a good idea to check those areas out a couple of miles. My thought on why he didn't has to do with manpower, he was one cop and could only go one direction at a time after all.

Mason wrote:

We are approaching 48 hours since I asked to see the records and we have not received an answer.
How much longer must we wait?

My first question would be, has anyone directly contacted Fred Murray and asked for a copy of his work records for those days/hours? If no one has done so, is there anyone in the group who would be willing to do that?

Until we know he has actually been asked for the information, setting time limits on delivery of same isn't useful. If we ask and are refused, or if we ask and compliance is indicated but not forthcoming in a reasonable time, then eyebrows may raise.

Advocator wrote:

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My first question would be, has anyone directly contacted Fred Murray and asked for a copy of his work records for those days/hours? If no one has done so, is there anyone in the group who would be willing to do that?
Until we know he has actually been asked for the information, setting time limits on delivery of same isn't useful. If we ask and are refused, or if we ask and compliance is indicated but not forthcoming in a reasonable time, then eyebrows may raise.

I agree that he deserves the courtesy of a formal request in writing, but I do not know how to contact him directly.

Advocator wrote:

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My first question would be, has anyone directly contacted Fred Murray and asked for a copy of his work records for those days/hours? If no one has done so, is there anyone in the group who would be willing to do that?
Until we know he has actually been asked for the information, setting time limits on delivery of same isn't useful. If we ask and are refused, or if we ask and compliance is indicated but not forthcoming in a reasonable time, then eyebrows may raise.

Sgt Smith declared the Saturn a possible crime and wouldn't let anyone near it thereby preserving any trace evidence inside the car. He also applied for a search warrant that was executed the next day.

Searching W/B made sense because that's where the closest lodgings and restaurants were located and she'd just driven through that area.

I believe others searched the 112 E/B and BHR Monday night. I think they were volunteer firefighters who searched after they got out of a meeting.

Fred Murray made his comment that Maura would have been found alive after he knew about the scent scent trail, not before.

I suspect Fred Murray has been posting under the moniker Johnny Bravado and he has supporters who post and lurk here, so I'd be surprised if he doesn't know what's going on.

Nevertheless, a formal request in writing is the proper way to go.

The biggest red herring is the search at the A-Frame and the cadaver dogs going "bonkers."

That makes five big fat red herrings.

Do I hear six?

Yes, indeed. Fred Murray's statement to a reporter on the fifth anniversary of Maura's disappearance that the PIs withheld evidence for DNA testing that they seized during a search last summer and refused to split the sample and share it with the NHSP.

BTW we still don't know who is responsible for the flurry of Maura-is-alive posts a week ago. If they aren't true, that's a seventh red herring except, to be honest, I doubt Fred Murray was responsible because they contained information damaging to him. I'm referring to the domestic violence allegations, which may be true although I don't know for certain.

Well, that's it for me today.

Gonna do some other stuff.

Nighty Nite.

By John Ellement and Joanna Weiss,[The Boston] Globe Staff
April 16, 2005

TRURO -- After a three-year probe into fashion writer Christa Worthington's slaying, a wrenchingly public hunt that once targeted former boyfriends and exposed intimate details of her life, prosecutors yesterday charged a man they say barely knew her, a 33-year-old garbage collector with a violent past.

Christopher M. McCowen, a 6-foot-tall, muscular man who picked up garbage once a week from Worthington's Truro home, pleaded not guilty in Orleans District Court to raping and murdering Worthington, 46, in January 2002.

McCowen was arrested Thursday night, after at least a dozen state troopers swarmed his run-down rooming house in Hyannis. Investigators said they linked his DNA, from a sample they took more than a year ago, to evidence found on Worthington's body. His arrest could bring an end to one of the most high-profile and mysterious Massachusetts murder cases in recent years.

Cape and Islands District Attorney Michael O'Keefe said McCowen, whom authorities identified as a person of interest early in the investigation, worked for a private trash-collection company on Cape Cod and probably knew Worthington only from his job. The day of the slaying was not a regular trash day.

''The evidence would suggest it was a person who knew Christa only in the sense that they were familiar with her comings and goings," O'Keefe said during a press conference.''They were not personal acquaintances. They were not friends in any way."

O'Keefe would not say why authorities believe that. Investigators, he said,''certainly have a motive" for the murder, but he would not elaborate.

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Still, some Cape residents questioned why the investigation took so long. And some friends of Worthington's criticized O'Keefe for suggesting in the past that her relationships with men may have somehow led to her death.

The arrest of a man with no apparent close ties to Worthington proved that ''it had nothing to do with Christa's character," said Steve Radlauer, a friend from New York.''He said some very nasty things about her."

O'Keefe yesterday declined to comment on his past remarks about the case.

As they did at various points during the long investigation, news crews and reporters descended on Truro and Provincetown yesterday to film the cottage and talk to the players again. From his Provincetown home, Jackett fielded calls from CBS, NBC, and CNN, and said he was glad that his name seemed officially cleared.

''I never got the impression that I was someone they were seriously looking at," he said.''The media built that up. I was a married man, I'd had an affair."

Jackett, who once sought custody of Ava Worthington, now sees her every other weekend. Friends of Worthington's in Cohasset have custody of the girl.

Truro Police Chief John Thomas said he believes the arrest and prosecution will bring tranquility back to a town that has lived with unease for more than three years.

''Now we can rest in the night," he said.''It's probably another relief that it wasn't just a stranger that ran into the house. It's a relief that it wasn't somebody who's been living in town."

But some Cape residents said that, after an initial buzz, the fascination with the case had waned -- and that people were not generally afraid that there was a murderer at large.

''I don't think people were living in fear that there was some murderer out there that other people would be in danger of," said Christopher Busa, a friend of Jackett's who is founder and editor of Provincetown Arts magazine.''It seems to be the kind of relief you want when you go through a long five-act tragedy and you finally get to the conclusion."

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Sorry Advocator HPD did verify that Sgt.Smith did indeed go down RT 112 and up Bradley Hill that night!

Advocator wrote:

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Sgt. Smith may have done an exemplary job, but the report substantiating that is his report, so in essence we only have his word that he did a good/better/best job. As I recall, he checked in the westerly direction along SR 112, but not in the easterly direction and also apparently not up Bradley Hill Road.
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Yes, we know now that the dog scent evidence ended more or less at the Bradley Hill intersection, but Smith didn't know that at the time. I agree that Smith likely would not have found Maura by checking east on 112 and up Bradley Hill some distance, given the dog scent evidence, but at the time it would have been a good idea to check those areas out a couple of miles. My thought on why he didn't has to do with manpower, he was one cop and could only go one direction at a time after all.

IMO Trooper Monahan came over from Twinstate via RT 112.
The fire department was attending their
officers meeting and where toned out to
the accident so all memebers on that night for FD where officers of the dept.
All have verified searching up old Peters Road and up and down the road
as well as watching for a person on
foot while in route to the call!
So Sgt.Smith was looking from the get go!

Mason wrote:

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Sgt Smith declared the Saturn a possible crime and wouldn't let anyone near it thereby preserving any trace evidence inside the car. He also applied for a search warrant that was executed the next day.
Searching W/B made sense because that's where the closest lodgings and restaurants were located and she'd just driven through that area.
I believe others searched the 112 E/B and BHR Monday night. I think they were volunteer firefighters who searched after they got out of a meeting.
Fred Murray made his comment that Maura would have been found alive after he knew about the scent scent trail, not before.

foes someone from this forum know maura or her family or boy?

Marta-Ela wrote:

foes someone from this forum know maura or her family or boy?

HI Marta,, no I don't know any of them. I just own a house near where the Saturn was discovered. I have though, contacted some of her friends from school and have been told that she is a great person.

Beagle~
if the point of the Worthington story was lost on anyone, it may be helpful to know that #1) her killer was an unlikely perp, and #2) there was relief in the community when the murder mystery was solved. therefore: posts are...on-topic! ;-)

a re-read for those with excessive fears:

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''Now we can rest in the night," he said.''It's probably another relief that it wasn't just a stranger that ran into the house. It's a relief that it wasn't somebody who's been living in town."

But some Cape residents said that, after an initial buzz, the fascination with the case had waned -- and that people were not generally afraid that there was a murderer at large.

''I don't think people were living in fear that there was some murderer out there that other people would be in danger of," said Christopher Busa, a friend of Jackett's who is founder and editor of Provincetown Arts magazine.''It seems to be the kind of relief you want when you go through a long five-act tragedy and you finally get to the conclusion."