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“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

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a sympathetic and reflexive response to rally around Fred Murray is not unexpected duck behavior...but while at least one poster claims to know his 'alibi', and is not offering it up for examination, then assumptions can and will be made, given walls are being erected around Maura's disappearance.
Mason, while i am personally uncomfortable with the direct inquiry such as you've made to Fred Murray on these forums, i cannot help but notice the defensiveness and extreme efforts made to prevent rather than facilitate your direct contact with FM.
i do know this....fish rots from the head down. and its stinky around here.

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quija wrote:
1. I thought about how I'd feel if people discussed whether I had an inappropriate physical relationship with a family member. I realized I would not mind a discussion of it. When it is not true, the mention of it is neither toxic nor verboten. JMHO.
2. Looking back at the night of Maura's emotional breakdown, Feb. 6 around 1AM, and finally, actually READING the articles I posted about Greg Wallace, I noticed that his funeral set for Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. So.... it's a long shot, but Maura might have known him (without necessarily speaking about him to her family...) and might have gotten the news of his funeral the night she broke down.
quijie ~

on #2, complete agreement.

on #1, not certain i understand if you are referencing an inappropriate physical relationship between family members, or a relationship outside of a committed relationship.

in either situation, however, such a relationship might be founded on secrecy/manipulation/control, and perhaps associated with violence as a consequence for revealing the relationship.

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seems constant targeting of certain local NH residents and LE bashing was/is just fine in the minds of more than a few...for 5 years, no less!
now we cry goose and gander.

it can't be denied that Mason has examined many, if not all, possibilities and scenarios...with intelligence...and he has driven right through any agenda while courageously facing all opposition.

the truth will emerge.
gvmeabrk

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peripeteia wrote:
GMB:
In defense of MacKay, I have never heard it mentioned that he rented a hotel room, the report in the Grafton Log mentioned as quoted here, he was off at the motel. He was on duty,it seems unlikely he rented a motel room. If he did which is questionable, this likely has nothing to do with Maura.
As far as a creepy motel, there are no lack of these in the world, and have heard nothing regarding the Bear Room and mysterious unlocking door.
I believe, Fred, family, friends, PI's have visited most motels, hotels and hostels in the area to check and see if Maura rented a room.
Re: Bear room Thanks to Lady Gray.

OH MY wrote:
I NEED YOUR DIRECT NUMBER PLZZZZ..
I KNOW WHO DID IT.....
I STAYED IN THE BEAR ROOM IN WELLS RIVER MONDAY NIGHT AND I CHECKED THE DOOR THREE TIMES AND HAD TO REOPEN THE DOOR AND THE INNER DOOR OPENED EVEN THOUGH I CHECKED IT 3 TIMES AND IT WAS LOCKED..BUT IT OPENED UP EVEN THOUGH IT LOCKED!!!!!!!!!!
Gvemeabreak - Here ya go.(Don't mean to answer a post for someone else.....just had it handy.)
gvmeabrk

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I am not trying to derail..I have started reading from Page1 and these question have been on my mind. Thought I would ask to clear them up.
WHITE WASH

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Given the person's job don't think he
miss understood!
FW was the one who stated she didn't believe JM was home!
How do we know JM was making fiction
statements to Weeper?
peripeteia wrote:
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Well anyone can say anything on the internet where there is no moderator, or anyone to keep fact from fiction, what you are referring to is pure fiction.
JM to the best of my recollection stated the Saturn hit the snowbank, and back up parallel to the road. Perhaps the person who told you JM said the car hit the trees was in error. You had JM not being at home at all, or at least repeated something you knew not to be so.
WHITE WASH

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The FIT has dragged how many through the mud and that is ok?

I see guilty until proven innocent is only for everyone else.

So glad we cleared that up!
peripeteia wrote:
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What is good for the goose is good for the gander,
you should take your own advise, and stay the heck out of Fred's.
You have stated things in public that are beneath
comment, and should you be allowed to run amuk? No
is the quick answer.
Many here can't and won't let that happen.
You are obviously in need of professional help, but I too know that you will not seek the help you need as you are blinded by your own misconscrewed self image and loathings. It is obvious your professional image has been built on a house of cards, house of grass as we say in gaelic, and it has come down about you. Find someone else to pick on, find some other case to solve; as far as you solving this case, this God image is reserved for police, which is what we pay them for, and hold them accountable, and accept their vow of secrecy, it is for them to know. Not you, not me, not anyone here.
I'm wondering at your words, which speak volumes; how many innocent people you have harmed and how many evil people you have protected, a staggering and distrubing thought; Jesus, Mary and Joseph protect us from the LIKES!
I don't need to go anywhere to find hell, it is right here, right now, "No Exit".
WHITE WASH

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Mason I'll meet you at DD and you
can show me!

Just like Det.Col. he didn't feel the need to give out his credentialing why
should you?

What's good for the goose is good for gander right?
Snowy White wrote:
Mason,
per your quote:
"Iím speaking now in my official capacity as a lawyer and officer of the court."
at post #18705/p. 929
please define "officer of the court" in the context of your warning, along with intending implications for your willingness and obligation to enforce the law and/or compliance by posters on these forums.
thank you.
WHITE WASH

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Det. Col. was the one informing us of the Red Truck on BH.
Since Sgt. Smith's Boss states he did
look up there on would think Smith would have seen the truck wouldn't they.
More great information but I'm sure you'll figure out how to spin it to FIT.
peripeteia wrote:
footprints: it was reported that there was only one set of footprints leading to the back of the car, there were not foot prints noted on Sgt. S accident report, and in a comment in the media, it was reported there were no footprints.
The SBD alleges Maura squeezed out of the driver's door up against the snowbank, and he spoke to her over the hood, 15 feet away. No footprints would appear on the road, as allegedly it was clear of snow. There are also reports of footprints behind JM's house.
It is the first I hear of footprints heading east.
If Sgt. S headed down BHR to search for Maura, after he ran the plates, and had the information from the SBD that he was looking for a female, and not a male as FW reported, then obviously the RED TRUCK was not parked on the BHR at that time, because surely he would have stopped an investigated a truck that close to the accident scene. I have not heard it mentioned before that he headed down the BHR, I read where he headed West.
What is the source of the information that Sgt. S headed down BHR, and what time did he head this way. Who was at the scene while Sgt. S left the scene to go searching, and how long was he gone.
Was Trooper M at the scene. Was Sgt. C. left at the scene.
Was S
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WHITE WASH wrote:
The FIT has dragged how many through the mud and that is ok?
I see guilty until proven innocent is only for everyone else.
So glad we cleared that up!
<quoted text>
Hey--you're back!

Ok, so that indirectly answers the question I asked yesterday. It ISN'T different, in some people's minds at least, and it's ok because....someone else did it first.
Mason

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Technically, every lawyer is an officer of the court. I spoke up because I believed I saw someone possibly committing a serious criminal offense. I felt I had a duty to advise the person or persons responsible to contact the the NHSP, if the posts were true, and if untrue, to cease and desist from further posting and to consult with counsel.

I did exactly what any responsible and ethical lawyer would have done.
Dawn

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Glad you are back WW..

still wonder about Beagle..

“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

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Mason wrote:
Technically, every lawyer is an officer of the court. I spoke up because I believed I saw someone possibly committing a serious criminal offense. I felt I had a duty to advise the person or persons responsible to contact the the NHSP, if the posts were true, and if untrue, to cease and desist from further posting and to consult with counsel.
I did exactly what any responsible and ethical lawyer would have done.
TY & appreciate your response.
i have been a "mandated reporter" in my state, and, similarly, those duties extended beyond the immediate role of my employer.
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Mason wrote:
Technically, every lawyer is an officer of the court. I spoke up because I believed I saw someone possibly committing a serious criminal offense. I felt I had a duty to advise the person or persons responsible to contact the the NHSP, if the posts were true, and if untrue, to cease and desist from further posting and to consult with counsel.
I did exactly what any responsible and ethical lawyer would have done.
Wow. Nice to know you're capable of that from time to time.
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For those that have been around for more than a couple of years talking about Maura's dissapearance. Has anyone besides Mason and Quija insinuated that Fred may be invovled is Maura's dissapearance? I am just courious over the years if others have thought this.
I just find it hard to believe that if someone killed somebody that they would be pressing so hard publicly against LE. I would keep my mouth shut the fu... up.

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Sara wrote:
For those that have been around for more than a couple of years talking about Maura's dissapearance. Has anyone besides Mason and Quija insinuated that Fred may be invovled is Maura's dissapearance? I am just courious over the years if others have thought this.
I just find it hard to believe that if someone killed somebody that they would be pressing so hard publicly against LE. I would keep my mouth shut the fu... up.
Whiston's/philip's well documented questions have, over time, suggested concern about the unexplored features of Maura's life prior to her disappearance, and gaps of information that prevent progress on these forums.
why do you ask? please expand...
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Snowy White wrote:
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Whiston's/philip's well documented questions have, over time, suggested concern about the unexplored features of Maura's life prior to her disappearance, and gaps of information that prevent progress on these forums.
why do you ask? please expand...
I was only asking because it was a bit shocking to read. I guess for me since Fred and LE are in a battle over information that Fred was being denied, coupled with his constant searching, and having an alibi, the thought had never crossed my mind. I wanted to see if others way before Mason had also insinuated this because for me it had never even crossed my mind. Hope I expanded enough for you to understand why the question was asked in the first place.
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Sara wrote:
For those that have been around for more than a couple of years talking about Maura's dissapearance. Has anyone besides Mason and Quija insinuated that Fred may be invovled is Maura's dissapearance? I am just courious over the years if others have thought this.
I just find it hard to believe that if someone killed somebody that they would be pressing so hard publicly against LE. I would keep my mouth shut the fu... up.
Sara
EBW posted a link on advocaters site back from 06. This has been brought up on the forums for years - we just found out. They even asked for confirmation of his work schedule back in 06. So to answer your question. Yes. There have been questions for years.
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We also don't know if he has an alibi - since work records haven't been confirmed or denied. With an investigation - LE can only go by the "facts" that they have - so even if he was not involved - LE would most likely question if he 1) helped her dissapear 2) had something to do with her dissapearance. Only the killer knows where the body is located - if she was murdered. They can't make an arrest without evidence of foul play - they need a body. I don't think they will find one in NH either. They can only make an arrest if they have the information they need. However - they might have almost enough to make an arrest - but the AG and Govt - don't want Mr Murray to have any of this info. WHY?
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and the bigger question is.. WHY ??? would people on a forum that were strangers - prior to Maura going missing - would be opposed to seeking the truth? This is NOT victimizing the victim if he has nothing to hide. Just show the work records and be done. Instead since 06 three more years of people wondering why a father wouldn't do that - he could use that as a way to get Media attention....... this can be totally turned into a positive. but we have ducks - that say

from EBW...

O.K. but what if that person isn't really willing to speak to you, picks up the phone or sits down and writes a letter, and files a formal complaint with the NH Attorney General?

that is reply to asking him to just show - hey I was at work - NOW FIND MY DAUGHTER.. but NO.. instead write a letter or pick up the phone. this really is upsetting to me.

This could be such a positive move. Get the Media attention I have been trying to get. I do hope he reconsiders this and shows - he was at work and we need to fight for these records.

I dont think that will happen tho.
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