Where is MAURA MURRAY

Mason wrote:

Technically, every lawyer is an officer of the court. I spoke up because I believed I saw someone possibly committing a serious criminal offense. I felt I had a duty to advise the person or persons responsible to contact the the NHSP, if the posts were true, and if untrue, to cease and desist from further posting and to consult with counsel.
I did exactly what any responsible and ethical lawyer would have done.

Lawyers are ethical??? Could of fooled me.

Because it's an ongoing criminal investigation. Period.

Sara wrote:

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I was only asking because it was a bit shocking to read. I guess for me since Fred and LE are in a battle over information that Fred was being denied, coupled with his constant searching, and having an alibi, the thought had never crossed my mind. I wanted to see if others way before Mason had also insinuated this because for me it had never even crossed my mind. Hope I expanded enough for you to understand why the question was asked in the first place.

thanks, you have.
i didn't want to name names without understanding why they were being singled out.
i once actively defended FM on this forum, without information to support my position...except to observe that he appears to be a grieving father in photos.
it hadn't crossed my mind, either, that he may be considered a 'suspect'until Mason's specific mention.
while you suggest FM has an alibi, i do not believe that information has been proven as fact on these forums.

Mason

Do you have a BS degree? I am sure you do and in my book that stands for..Bullshit.

Art

Dawn wrote:

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Sara
EBW posted a link on advocaters site back from 06. This has been brought up on the forums for years - we just found out. They even asked for confirmation of his work schedule back in 06. So to answer your question. Yes. There have been questions for years.

Sara,

This is incorrect. I have been following Maura's disappearance/investigation for about 5 years and the thought never crossed my mind either.

I provided that link to another site where some random poster brought the issue up and a poster (Peabody) that I've known of and trusted over the years replied.

Read the link and decide for yourself.

I personally find the recent allegations against Mr. Murray ludicrous and libelous.

Sara wrote:

I just find it hard to believe that if someone killed somebody that they would be pressing so hard publicly against LE. I would keep my mouth shut the fu... up.

While I would do the same, many perps inject themselves into the investigation in the mistaken belief that it will keep them off of the police radar (i.e. a good citizen) and also allows them to keep tabs on the investigation. The police know this. This is not unusual at all from what I have read.

Bill

Could someone please repost WS forum for Maura. I had a correct shortcut but it no longer works.
Thank you in advance.

I've noticed in many missing persons' cases that forums discuss the possibility that family members were involved until these family members are declared "officially cleared" or "not a suspect in this case". I have NO IDEA if any comments like this were made in Maura's disappearance and would appreciate hearing about people who were cleared (besides the early announcement that Billy Rausch was). Thanks,

Snowy White wrote:

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thanks, you have.
i didn't want to name names without understanding why they were being singled out.
i once actively defended FM on this forum, without information to support my position...except to observe that he appears to be a grieving father in photos.
it hadn't crossed my mind, either, that he may be considered a 'suspect'until Mason's specific mention.
while you suggest FM has an alibi, i do not believe that information has been proven as fact on these forums.

Not on these forums, no. And these forums are not the place for it.

gvmeabrk wrote:

Could someone please repost WS forum for Maura. I had a correct shortcut but it no longer works.
Thank you in advance.

WS = Websleuths? Mine doesn't work either. I have to go the long, arduous cranky searching way. If I can come up with one that works, I'll certainly share it.

Thank you to all that answered my questions and gave me some new perspective.

WS NH & MA-Maura Murray Part 4-merged

The post is on page 5 of 17 but I suggest reading the page from the top and down to Peabody's post.

Hi all,I have to ask all of you, which forum would you go to and post your alibi if your child vanished.What would it be worth not to show where you were and what you were doing.I cannot imagine the price I would not pay if it brought them home.take care philip

FireCat wrote:

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Not on these forums, no. And these forums are not the place for it.

This information would be 5 years old. Jesus Christ on a crutch, even the government doesn't care about many state secrets after 5 years. How could a definitive location with proof on him at that time period from 5 years ago possibly be a problem? No one had any problems specifing the location of SBD or CW or any of the other witnesses. Ask me and I'll happily tell you where I was 5 years ago at a specific date and time if I know where it was.

Seems a little out of kilter.

Bill

oops sorry folks, that wasn't the link, false alarm.

Sara, I have been involved with Maura case about 4 and a half years. I never considered FM a suspect. That may be partially as I know LE question family first for involvement before moving on to others.
While I'm hear for any newcomers, FIT refers to a light moment members of the MMM were jokingly referred as Fit by Weeper,(forum in training) as investigators. Ducks were a fun night when a family member ran petrified from what she thought were attack ducks. Despite the betrayal by many these were things that lightened moments of tension, along with the tent, we went willingly or jokingly were sent by a moderator. It was a way of sharing in a real sense and releasing pent up anguish and frustration. I think it is important to know this as these symbols are continually desecrated here. It helped us be productive.

whiston wrote:

Hi all,I have to ask all of you, which forum would you go to and post your alibi if your child vanished.What would it be worth not to show where you were and what you were doing.I cannot imagine the price I would not pay if it brought them home.take care philip

In the case of Fred Murray, I can tell you. The answer seems to be "none."

None of us here is Fred Murray, Philip.(and Mason, for that matter, since you keep asking if Fred's behaviour is consistent with something.) The only person who is Fred Murray is, needless to say, Fred Murray.

Do you SERIOUSLY think that Fred posting access to his work records for the night Maura disappeared is going to help bring her home?

Really-really??

WTF-the-original wrote:

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This information would be 5 years old. Jesus Christ on a crutch, even the government doesn't care about many state secrets after 5 years. How could a definitive location with proof on him at that time period from 5 years ago possibly be a problem? No one had any problems specifing the location of SBD or CW or any of the other witnesses. Ask me and I'll happily tell you where I was 5 years ago at a specific date and time if I know where it was.
Seems a little out of kilter.
Bill

While the locations of SBD, CW etc have been DISCUSSED over the years, no one has made a public demand for either SBD's employment records nor CW's employment records to prove they were where they said they were.

Can you just imagine what the reaction would be if Leatherman had demanded the employment records of SBD or CW?

I shudder to think of the reactions.

earthburner wrote:

What do you think Mason? Do you think Johnny Bravado would be able to help us answer this question? Johnny Bravado, you shmuck, are you there? Are you listening you retarded pig? Care to chime in and make a laughable fool of yourself?

earthburner (aka "Mastermind"),

Despite the fact that it's been at least 2-3 months since I've even logged onto or posted anything in this forum, you are sadly still so deeply distraught over me publicly explaining the truth about you being a sincere cowardly loser in every noteworthy aspect of life that you think obsessively over me throughout every single day of your life, which you prove to everyone in nearly every single post you make regardless of how irrelevant I am to the context of the posts. You and I both know that each and every time that you look in the mirror, you see nothing but a shameless coward. You will never respect yourself, nor will anyone else who knows you intimately. Given the content of your posts, how could you? You and I both know that you have to live with this every single day of your sad life, and the fact that I brought this truth out by simply analyzing your posts eats you alive. Every single statement I've made in this summary thus far can also be applied to your boyfriend, "Benjamin Franklyne", who is one of the only people alive as dreadfully pathetic as you and who also obsesses over me to such an absurdly repugnant extent that he also repeatedly mentions my name in posts that I have nothing to do with on a forum that I haven't visited in months. The only difference between the two of you is that Benjamin Franklyne accepts the fact that he has always been a cowardly loser with no friends or social life his entire life and is content with the fact that he will remain this way for the rest of his sad life while you, on the other hand, are still attempting to come to grips with this reality. I suggest you seek advice from Benjamin Franklyne on how to be content living such a cowardly life, and then perhaps you won't cry and obsess over me, which, by the way, I find quite flattering. I advance my most sincere pity to the two of you.

For the rest of you, most of whom I respect, you may recall that I was attempting to interview the SBD in Florida. I cannot and will not discuss anything that took place, especially in an open, public forum, and particularly in this open, public forum. However, I will say that any information that was learned was passed on directly to both the NH LE and a 3rd party with ties to this case (I cannot elaborate on that party for obvious reasons). I hope that those of you with genuine concern for Maura and the Murray family are satisfied in knowing that any and all information I may have gotten was given to the appropriate authorities. My recent experiences have rid me of any desire I had to post on these forums, so I don't have any intention of posting again. To those of you who share the same genuine concern for Maura and the same sincere desire to solve this case as I do, I hope you understand my position, and I wish you the best of luck.

elsewhebriefly wrote:

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Sara,
This is incorrect. I have been following Maura's disappearance/investigation for about 5 years and the thought never crossed my mind either.
I provided that link to another site where some random poster brought the issue up and a poster (Peabody) that I've known of and trusted over the years replied.
Read the link and decide for yourself.
I personally find the recent allegations against Mr. Murray ludicrous and libelous.

EBW posted a link showing someone named doc asked this to peabody