Where is MAURA MURRAY

godforsaken forum because someone pointed out in spades what almost everyone else was too naive to believe about forums in general?

godforsaken because the truth about the authenticity of any poster's identity was demonstrated?

exposed falsehoods = godforsaken?

Several real people could be regularly using one moniker. For months or years.

And one real person could be using several monikers for months or years, too.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Maura had been involved in a prior accident with her dad's new car that caused about 10K in damage and I'm sure Maura was distraught even though Mr. Murray was quoted on numerous occasions that it was no big deal. He also stated Maura was a good kid and had never given her parents a moments worry up until the accident.
I believe this is what he might have been referring to that and obviously figured the second accident would have caused her to be more distraught.
This is purely my opinion.
I also believe that the family were clamoring to find photos and identifying information for Maura to e-mail to HPD. I beliee you will find this on the log also. Maura's sister is Kathleen.

Great thanks.

Mason wrote:

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What are you talking about?
Fred

Sorry, I didn't in any way mean to construe that as a threat or a jibe at you. I was researching IPNW because I've always been interested in the project, and you mentioned starting the NW one, and when you google your name and IPNW, info on your recent academic position also pop up. And I can't imagine how frustrating that whole thing must be for you.

John wrote:

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Three people posting here know her.
Has anyone considered the possibility that she was at 112 and OPL?

........um, that would be NO, she wasn't. That's just silly.

FireCat wrote:

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Um, here's the thing about this post.
I know "Paris" personally, and (I'd like to think) fairly well.
I do not believe that Paris actually wrote this post, or any of the other ones on this page. I will continue to not believe it unless I get a returned phone call from Paris indicating that this is, indeed, a post of hers.

Just curious... Do you mean you DO NOT believe it was Paris, therefore you DO believe it was Vasi?

If you don't believe it was Paris, then why believe it was the real Vasi?

Dawn wrote:

Can someone please tell me what courthouse that WW found the file?????????? Thank you in advance!!!!

Grafton County, I think. It was recently posted as well somewhere in all this other stuff, I believe, so you may have missed it.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Still smiling uncontrollably.

I'm busy laughing (not at you, John, just in general) that you first referred to Mason as an a-hole, and then added "and you're a little weird" like that makes it worse.
But then, that's just my sense of humour. Carry on, everyone.

Beagle wrote:

The call from the Londonderry, NH area may have come from a pharmacist. Did Maura Murray or anyone close to her know a pharmacist from that area?

.....and it may have come from Mortimer the Anteater, Bob the Builder, or Zelda the Flying Nun. There's NO evidence it may have come from a pharmacist. That's as ridiculous and random as saying Jackie did it.(by the way, you realize that you forgot to change your handle when you wrote that, so it sounds like John said it)

Mason wrote:

Mets Fans are losers, John.
You don't want to be a loser, do you?
I'll meet you at the Lavender Club in 30 minutes.

Ok, now you're bashing gays AND Mets fans. And neither of those is cool, dude. Chill the hell out. Homophobia is so terribly 1990s.

whiston wrote:

hi all,any thoughts on why LE would not release a description of what the person at the ATM was wearing and if there hair was up or down.I guess the video was black and white but i dont' know for sure but a jacket,.a scarf ,a hat, gloves, carrying such a purse or back pack,shoes or boots must help even now.take care philip

One bank account can have more than one ATM card? If the person using the ATM card managed to stay out of the camera's view or was well disguised, then that might be a reason for not releasing the tape.

But like all the rest of it, how can we really know that she went to an ATM and withdrew money.

John wrote:

Mason, for the record, I am flagging every one of your posts directed at me - including the VERY inappropriates ones of a few hours ago. Not sure if that will make a difference here, but I am hoping that either it will or it will at least encourage you to shut up.

For the record, all joking about the Mets aside, the whole homophobia thing was REALLY uncalled for, Mason. He's got every right to report that as abuse. I considered it myself.

John wrote:

I finally was able to get on the "MM 21" site. Is there any source for whether the impact on the window was inward or outward. Hard to imagine it having been outward, given its position.

The window was broken FROM THE INSIDE, according to my sources (which are the same as your sources, I've just been staring at them for a few years longer, so I know stuff from memory)

Why pay such extraordinary attention for years to every motion made (and not made) by, and every word spoken (and not spoken) by the driver in Haverhill and no attention paid to the relationship between his employer and SW?

Public records indicate that the owner of the bus company had or has an office across the street from SW.

Is this not potentially relevant?

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Just curious... Do you mean you DO NOT believe it was Paris, therefore you DO believe it was Vasi?
If you don't believe it was Paris, then why believe it was the real Vasi?

I believe that the recent post (from last night or whenever) was NOT Paris. I have had no reason to believe that it wasn't Vasi who posted (regardless of whether or not I believe it was Paris, if that makes sense.)

I believed Vasi to be who he said he was, and still have no reason to doubt that it was he. As I said, I'm waiting to hear back from Paris as to the validity of that recent post.

Beagle wrote:

Why pay such extraordinary attention for years to every motion made (and not made) by, and every word spoken (and not spoken) by the driver in Haverhill and no attention paid to the relationship between his employer and SW?
Public records indicate that the owner of the bus company had or has an office across the street from SW.
Is this not potentially relevant?

"His" employer? Are you referring to the BUS driver in Haverhill? Or do you think that the driver of the Saturn was a man? Still trying to clear my head from all the other stuff I just waded through.

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Just curious... Do you mean you DO NOT believe it was Paris, therefore you DO believe it was Vasi?
If you don't believe it was Paris, then why believe it was the real Vasi?

Oh. And to answer your question more fully (sorry) there were some specific things in Paris's post last night that I believe to be completely and entirely untrue, based on what I know of Paris and our many, many conversations. I got no such indication from any of Vasi's posts.

FireCat wrote:

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The window was broken FROM THE INSIDE, according to my sources (which are the same as your sources, I've just been staring at them for a few years longer, so I know stuff from memory)

Boy am I glad to see you firecat. You are so much better at keeping the facts straight as well your use of grammar and spelling.

FireCat wrote:

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.....and it may have come from Mortimer the Anteater, Bob the Builder, or Zelda the Flying Nun. There's NO evidence it may have come from a pharmacist. That's as ridiculous and random as saying Jackie did it.(by the way, you realize that you forgot to change your handle when you wrote that, so it sounds like John said it)

You clearly demonstrate that finding Maura is not worth even considering that the phone call may have come from a pharmacist. Your first and constant reaction is to ram the thought into eternal darkness. You have plenty of time to BASH, BASH, BASH, and talk about all kinds of other things, but you are NOT committed to finding Maura or what happened to her. Are you afraid that if you try to follow this line of thinking that you will waste your time? From doing what? From constant bad mouthing and bashing? From constant attention to a fruitless quest to solve who knows what about the Rt. 112 crash site?

And it's really, really curious how defensive and angry and sarcastic you get when you criticize the only poster - at least the only poster who admits it - who actually lives in the area where Marua was last seen.

You reserve the greatest scorn and venom for the one person who might actually know his own backyard. That's a scary thought for you, isn't it?

If you follow leads that might not go anywhere, then you are not willing to follow any lead at all because the only thing you and all the other liars in this thread discuss is one place, Rt. 112 in Haverhill - which has been relied on for five years now to go absolutely nowhere.

How committed you are to finding Maura that you will endlessly bash theories that might possibly go somewhere - but, of course, they might not, so you don't want to be associated with them. In order to go SOMEwhere, you have to START somewhere. WITH AN OPEN MIND.

After all you have said, it is perfectly reasonable to question your desire to find Maura Murray.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

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Boy am I glad to see you firecat. You are so much better at keeping the facts straight as well your use of grammar and spelling.

Jeez, I go away for 36 hours and the place goes to hell in a happy meal...

FireCat wrote:

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"His" employer? Are you referring to the BUS driver in Haverhill? Or do you think that the driver of the Saturn was a man? Still trying to clear my head from all the other stuff I just waded through.

Sorry, the school bus driver. The bus company was owned, for all practical purposes, by someone with an office across from SW. That does not mean the owner is guilty of anything. It just means that someone near the office, physically or electronically, may have used the proximity to his advantage.