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Beagle

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PULP FICTION:

They are all homeless and rootless. Their middle age has been indulged for all it’s worth. They are on their way to late middle age before their time. They lay out their troubles like gypsy street dealers in the city markets. They spread them out on a blanket of troubles. Or spread them across a canvas, story upon story, layered over one another. Their faces are somber and waxy with so many unwashed days. They supplicate a little at first – o holy father I have sinned – but soon launch into a complex tragedy of missed inheritances and double dealing, backstabbing friends and cheating wives.

Kevin’s story was different from the rest. When I sat down at the dining table next to him, he showed me his sketch pad and said he liked to draw covered bridges. He had worked in demolition most of his life and still carried an enthusiasm for it that was true. In his tank top at breakfast, you could see that he had once been quite muscular, and was surely still very strong, but his skin and muscles were sagging now. In the mornings, he dressed quickly and pulled on his overalls like a twenty year old, fast and easily, but that was his last connection with his own youth.

He told of having worked for the fourth largest tax payer in Connecticut a few years ago, a man so rich, he had an exact replica of America’s longest, or maybe oldest, covered bridge built on his estate. Water, like a short river, ran beneath it. His friends were married there and crossed the bridge in a horse drawn carriage after the ceremony.

Kevin told me about the estate and the vast and lavishly landscaped country setting. And about how he would travel to the various covered bridges throughout New England and draw them. And how on his way home at night he would stop at the strip club.

I still had, about the time I first met Kevin, a vague recollection of having heard a few years earlier about Maureen’s disappearance on the news. She was a UMass student who drove away from campus one day and was never heard from again. A couple of days after she was last seen, her car was found abandoned in a small New Hampshire town about three hours north of campus. No sign of a struggle. No sign of her. There was little for the TV stations to report. Local fires and drug arrests soon displaced the empty story of the missing coed.

One day when I accompanied Kevin to the post office down the street he told me that he missed seeing the exotic dancers now that he was homeless and had no car. Could I maybe take him to the club, he asked? He recalled his favorite dancer, Maureen. Kevin was Irish and in love with her. He would give her generous tips and hand her some of his drawings. He would sit alone in front, his workmen’s clothes padding his muscular frame, shy, but smiling happily, his booted feet on the chair next to him, ready for Maureen’s first appearance of the night.
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According to Godwin's own website, he predicted that the 2001 anthrax attacker lived within driving distance of the mailbox at which the anthrax was mailed. What brilliant insight!
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Feb 26, 2009
 
mcsmom wrote:
Old Timer....been like a thong in my side all along.
Oh my!!!(and I don't mean the poster.) How come you guys make all the good jokes while I'm gone?

Never mind. I'm not sure I want to know that.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
Dawn wrote:
Oh my.. I never intended to suggest she had involvment with the artist. A few days back - there were posts about how it was odd for a college student to have "art". I got to thinking - scary I know. Of course she had art - she worked at a gallery. Only people in her room KNEW what art she had - that is why the gallery is a mystery - only a perp could identify what was in her room. LE always holds info back - always - this could be cruicial in solving this. Thats why they can't say which gallery. Obviously, the family knows which one and has GOOD reason to not give that out. More clues at Amherst.
A lot of the stuff I had hanging on my walls in college wasn't anything that could be described as "posters." Some were simply framed photos; some *were* posters. One item was a mask I made in a design class first semester there.....perhaps "art" is simply the coverall word, used in place of "stuff".

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Feb 26, 2009
 
Dawn wrote:
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Who else other than you and I snowy??? Firecat too right ?
Hell no. Despite my fiery name, I'm as air sign as they get.

Not to be confused with airhead, though I am sometimes that too.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
A lot of the stuff I had hanging on my balls in college wasn't anything that could be described as post it notes. Some were simply famous. One was a mask I made in a designer semester. Perhaps Art is simply the world.
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Way too funny. Keep enriching my vocab.- love 'kerfluffle'. No one under 70 uses the word 'drawers'...nooo, you can't be. Even mcsmom uttered the word 'thong'. C'mon FC, loosen up. ;-)
Knickers? Unmentionables??!! ROFL. Maybe you would prefer I call it butt floss? Asspants?

It's purely random, I assure you. I also don't like the word "moist." Or "beverage." I am, however, for some reason exceedingly fond of the word "flipper."
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Feb 26, 2009
 
Dawn wrote:
Seventeen Magazine article
http://books.google.com/books...
YO YO YO!!! About the Skyy Blue can found in her car. This is (presumably) the "empty beer bottle" found in the back seat, right? That's my assumption.

Further notice (aside from the fact that the rest of the liquor wasn't mentioned AT ALL in that purchase....can you even BUY a single can of malt liquor in MA?) ANYWAY further notice that's what they were drinking Saturday night in Sara's dorm room.

SKYY BLUE AND WINE.

So here's two opposing theories on what that crap was still doing in her car Monday night.

1. Maura saved a can of Skyy Blue, had the leftover wine with her (or bought more, but my gut says leftover) and mixed these two things into a soda bottle to drink while she drove and that's what the cops found and smelled.

2.The alleged "hockey bag full of beer" that she was seen carrying out to her car on Sunday was A RECYCLING RUN (to get more cash? to help clean up after the party? whatever) and this one escaped, rolled under a seat, whatever. And the wine was just....there.

Now, for the first time, I'm leaning strongly towards theory #1. My original intent when I went to post this was theory #2, escaped recyclable that didn't make it into the can-bin. But now.....red liquid that smelled strongly of alcohol? Wine doesn't smell like alcohol, particularly. It doesn't smell really strongly, mostly. Malt liquor? Yeah. That I'd believe.

Remember how we also looked at those pictures of the wine splattered all over the inside of the car, on the headliner and the dashboard and said, "yeah, wine doesn't make spill trails like that".

WOULD IT MAKE TRAILS LIKE THAT IF IT WAS MIXED WITH SKYY BLUE? Beer gets pretty sticky, and while my experience with malt liquor is virtually nil, I'd be willing to bet that it doesn't have the same sort of "legs" wine has.

I'm going to post this over at the other forum, too, in hopes that our resident liquor expert will shed some light on this.
peripeteia

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Feb 26, 2009
 
Wowzer wrote:
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Was this a Canadian news report? I wonder how they know this. I've looked at some US news articles and they say there was no indication of foul play. Peri can you post a link to the news article that said it was highly suspicious?
I'd hate to see another rumor turn into a fictional murder mystery.
http://www.addisonindependent.com/node/1527
Wowzer: there was a happy face painted on a rock where he was found and has been linked to the happy face murderer. Will look for article.

“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

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Feb 26, 2009
 
peripeteia wrote:
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Wowzer: there was a happy face painted on a rock where he was found and has been linked to the happy face murderer. Will look for article.
**Volunteer searchers have come forward with pictures of the smiley face, found on a utility shed door a short distance from downtown Middlebury, Vt.**

**Middlebury police believe the graffiti is more than two years old and are not following up on leads related to the alleged gang.**

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354434,00...
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Feb 26, 2009
 
Some of the Rockefellers were famous philanderers and apparently left some progeny behind, whom their legitimate children would be happy to never hear from. There are no places on the boards of directors and no endless millions of dollars to be doled out.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
Snowy White wrote:
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**Volunteer searchers have come forward with pictures of the smiley face, found on a utility shed door a short distance from downtown Middlebury, Vt.**
**Middlebury police believe the graffiti is more than two years old and are not following up on leads related to the alleged gang.**
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354434,00...
Thanks Snowy for posting the article,I did not see the bottom part of the article on right hand side, which states that the Middlebury police believe the article was more than two years old. Seems I made a mistake as this is the article I read. Sorry indeed, I guess guilt as charged Wowzer of trying to start a rumour. Teach me to speed read and not to look closely.

Suzanne, seems you might be correct that there is no foul play, perhaps this is so, perhaps not as the police said Maura ran away likely to commit suicide in the White Mountains.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
Gonorrhea can cause a mother's very young child to die from meningitis. My mother's first child died from meningitis while very young. My parents were married on the day he was born. Adoption was, for them, the only option after that. Harold Ockenga and his wife knew how to help their friends, David and Mary Rockefeller, or their friends of friends, or near relations. Harold Ockenga baptized me at Park Street Church. The treasurer of Park Street Church, Harold Flight, contacted me a few years ago.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,358901,00...

Interesting in this article it outlines search for Garza, the dog was able to follow his scent in May, and he went missing from the campus in Feb. 05th.

Odd the dogs in Maura's disappearance only picked up the scent to near Bradley Hill Road, and no futher? Curious!
peripeteia

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Feb 26, 2009
 
I have posted the article below because of the incredible tracking ability of the dogs. Garza sure took an odd route for a walk on a very cold night in FEB after attending a social function?
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Using clothing from Garza’s room, Hanley said the dogs picked up a scent in Stewart Hall, where Garza was last seen. They followed it through the building, outside, along the service road across Route 30 and to a vacant house on South Street.

From there, the scent led to the college’s baseball field and down the railroad tracks before following a trail to Otter Creek. It ended at the bank of the river by a suspension bridge. Hanley described it as a 6-foot drop from land to the river, and said the scent went right to the water.

“The dogs actually jumped into the water at that point,” he said.

The trail did not go onto the bridge. Hanley said the dogs followed the same trail three times and that they are capable of picking up scents as old as eight months.

Hanley said he had no indication of what might have sent Garza that way, but that it is not uncommon for students to walk across the ice on the river……”
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Feb 26, 2009
 
peripeteia wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,358901,00.html
Interesting in this article it outlines search for Garza, the dog was able to follow his scent in May, and he went missing from the campus in Feb. 05th.
Odd the dogs in Maura's disappearance only picked up the scent to near Bradley Hill Road, and no futher? Curious!
Or not, considering how many hours had elapsed, and how difficult it is for even the best scent dogs to trace an airborne scent that has been dispersed with the passage of both time and traffic (which creates, of course, wind currents).

I don't know that I'd for sure call it curious. I'd sure as heck call it frustrating.
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Feb 26, 2009
 
From Wikipedia:

Despite widespread reports of physical and sexual abuse[citation needed], the Fernald School is best known as the site of the 1946–53 joint experiments by Harvard University and MIT that exposed young male children to repeated doses of radiation. Documents declassified in 1994 by the United States Department of Energy revealed the following details:

The experiment was sponsored in part by the Quaker Oats Company.
MIT Professor of Nutrition Robert S. Harris led the experiment, which studied the absorption of calcium and iron.
The boys were encouraged to join a "Science Club", which offered larger portions of food, parties, and trips to Boston Red Sox baseball games.

The club "members" ate iron-enriched cereals and calcium-enriched milk for breakfast. In order to track absorption, several radioisotope tracers were mixed into the meal.
Radiation levels in stool and blood samples would serve as dependent variables.
17 select "members" received iron supplement shots containing more radioisotopes.
Neither the children nor their parents ever consented to participation in a scientific study.
The Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments, reporting to the United States Department of Energy in 1994, reported on these experiments:

In 1946, one study exposed seventeen subjects to radioactive iron. The second study, which involved a series of seventeen related subexperiments, exposed fifty-seven subjects to radioactive calcium between 1950 and 1953. It is clear that the doses involved were low and that it is extremely unlikely that any of the children who were used as subjects were harmed as a consequence. These studies remain morally troubling, however, for several reasons. First, although parents or guardians were asked for their permission to have their children involved in the research, the available evidence suggests that the information provided was, at best, incomplete. Second, there is the question of the fairness of selecting institutionalized children at all, children whose life circumstances were by any standard already heavily burdened.

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Medical experiments are not just a thing of the past. They continue. Millions and millions of dollars have been made by companies who have, since 1969, absorbed the de-institutionalized patients of Massachusetts hospitals in the name of giving them their rightful home in the community. Nothing, in many cases, could be further from the truth.

And certain service providers in western
Massachsetts and the North Quabbin region know it.

What does this have to do with Maura Murray's disappearance? Potentially, quite a lot. Like a fire on Rt. 47 some years back. Like a feud between a local police chief and a couple of local politicians. Like the "community" minded people who are so very helpful in their communities, but are lining their pockets with the dollars attached to the neglected and marginalized.

Where was Maura staying if she was staying off-campus? What did Maura learn that might have lead to her disappearance?
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Feb 26, 2009
 
AP story about assisted suicide:
ATLANTA – Joining the Final Exit Network costs $50, and the privileges of membership include this: When you're ready to die, the organization will send two "exit guides" to show you how to suffocate yourself using helium tanks and a plastic hood. The Georgia-based organization says it is providing an invaluable and humane service. Authorities call it a crime.
Four members of the Final Exit Network, including its president and its medical director, were arrested Wednesday and charged with assisted suicide in the death of 58-year-old John Celmer last June at his home near Atlanta. Investigators said the organization may have been involved in as many as 200 other deaths around the country.
"The law is very clear, and they clearly violated it," said Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead.
The arrests came after an eight-month investigation in which an undercover agent posing as someone bent on suicide infiltrated the Final Exit Network, which bases its work on "The Final Exit," a best-selling suicide manual by British author Derek Humphry.
Members of the Final Exit Network are instructed to buy two new helium tanks and a hood, known as an "exit bag," according to the GBI. In court papers, investigators said the organization recommends helium because it is undetectable during an autopsy.
The network, which was founded in 2004 and claims 3,000 members, donors and volunteers nationwide, has long operated in the open. It has its own Web site, and its leaders have held news conferences and appeared at paid speaking engagements.
The group's members bristle at the term assisted suicide, saying they don't actively aid suicides but rather support and guide those who decide to end their lives.
"We're just there to help," said Jerry Dincin, the group's vice president, who was not arrested. "People insist upon it. They want to do what they want to do. They're suffering, and if they have intolerable pain, then they want to sometimes get out of that intolerable pain."
Celmer did not appear to be seriously ill. While his mother said he had suffered for years from throat and mouth cancer, court documents quoted his doctor as saying he had made a "remarkable recovery" and was cancer-free at the time of his suicide. Authorities said he may have been embarrassed about his appearance after jaw surgery.

Associated Press Writers Kate Brumback in Atlanta and Curt Anderson in Miami contributed to this report.

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Feb 26, 2009
 
Gladiator wrote:
to find Maura Murray
Are answers to the below questions reasonably obtainable? I'm not sure how proper they are to persue however...

Any possibility that there could be a boarder crossing record - if by chance Maura happened to go that way?

Any Jane Doe unconscious in a hospital or otherwise that could fit her description?

Any Americans apply for citizenship - or on a visa?
Shack

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Feb 26, 2009
 
I just want to interject one thing about the subject of:
"The Subject of Amherst". Every once in a awhile tempers flare about Amherst...as to why it is avoided..or...why some think that some are...whatever....circles of anger about what
we don't have....anything about Amherst.

Helena started the original Forum in November 2004, and kept it going until October 2006 when she started the 2nd Forum that ended in July 2008. If I have counted correctly that
would be 44 months. She, Norma and Lady Gray
Moderated. The Forums had little, if any, information about Amherst, so we were left with what we had from the family, including
Sharon. Literally all we had was the family input about what they knew, or allowed us to know...

Unlike the new Forum by Advocate, the prior Forums were moderated, in the sense that there were some deletions/censoring. We asked questions of family and were answered..(sometimes)
Anything Maura's family deemed unnecessary, or not pertinent was explained as such.

All I am trying to say is that we do not have Maura's family input on the new Forum. We are only left with what we had from the previous 44 months of the family Forums. It is what it is.

What we do have is private investigators who are trying, as well as,(last I heard) NHSP...?..and hope...for Maura and family.
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