Where is MAURA MURRAY

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peripeteia wrote:

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Wowzer: there was a happy face painted on a rock where he was found and has been linked to the happy face murderer. Will look for article.

Peri, please ! It was NOT linked - the only connection made was in the minds of certain people who wanted this accidental death to not be an accident but wanted for their own personal reasons for it to be a crime. Don't we have enough crime without trying to make accidental deaths into crimes.

Dawn

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Umass has a lot of students.......... Wouldn't you think that someone knew where she worked that would not have been asked to not say..

After she went missing - the talk of the campus would be -hey that girl who worked at X went missing... not every student could be asked to be quiet.

Any locals visit each gallery and ask - did she work here?

Relevent - I think absolutly - perhaps some stalker was watching her there.. You can't rule that out. That is a very important. This could be the person who ran her off the road. Disturbing phone call.

I am watching you..........

Suzanne

Shack wrote:

I just want to interject one thing about the subject of:
"The Subject of Amherst". Every once in a awhile tempers flare about Amherst...as to why it is avoided..or...why some think that some are...whatever....circles of anger about what
we don't have....anything about Amherst.
Helena started the original Forum in November 2004, and kept it going until October 2006 when she started the 2nd Forum that ended in July 2008. If I have counted correctly that
would be 44 months. She, Norma and Lady Gray
Moderated. The Forums had little, if any, information about Amherst, so we were left with what we had from the family, including
Sharon. Literally all we had was the family input about what they knew, or allowed us to know...
Unlike the new Forum by Advocate, the prior Forums were moderated, in the sense that there were some deletions/censoring. We asked questions of family and were answered..(sometimes)
Anything Maura's family deemed unnecessary, or not pertinent was explained as such.
All I am trying to say is that we do not have Maura's family input on the new Forum. We are only left with what we had from the previous 44 months of the family Forums. It is what it is.
What we do have is private investigators who are trying, as well as,(last I heard) NHSP...?..and hope...for Maura and family.

Shack the nuclear family had no interest in Helena's forum. They were very withholding of information. See my post somewhere above about how another family (Ray Gricar, PA DA) contributed to Ray's forum and cleared up a lot of misinformation

Suzanne

quija wrote:

I know you were just talking about what Fernald and other institutions have quite a history, don't they? I knew kids from Fernald.

Suzanne --- Sorry if it looked like i just paraphrased your post! I started out just chiming in that i felt the same way...

I was giving you a compliment - you said my thoughts better than I did and probably more tactfully than I did.

I once visited Fernald with a group and haven't been the same since.

Suzanne

quija wrote:

FireCat --- In a pinch (sorry) I sort of like the generic term "underpants". One problem, tho, is that it has far too many syllables; i mean it seems like a lot more than THREE! However --- it's gender-free, it sounds a little like what Alaskans or hunters might layer up with; it's a heftier, more materially-substantial-soundin g word than the prissy word "panties" which I refuse to ever use (I'm grimacing as i write it), because "panties" evokes pink and lace and wedgies and roll-downs and General Discomfort.(I worked under him at a job once.)(Oops -- poor choice of words.) It evokes adolescent males twirling said item high in the air on an index finger as a female jumps and tries to reach it. I hate that word more and more.

Firecat and Quija I loathe the word panties, I find it prurient and .... well pink. I never use this word and prefer the genderless words underpants and better yet underwear. FC, beverage is a perfectly respectable word but I agree, moist is iffy, borderline.

Dawn

Wowzer

Please read.......... I know you were very concerned about posting on public forums. I do NOT check on peoples IP addres. I did try to inform you that if big brother wants to know. He will! Just like if he wants to listen to your phone calls.......... He can. Even a judge can require topix to give up who their anon posters true identies.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2009/texas-ju...

carry on

Dawn

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I am A- OK if they check on me.. I have nothing to hide. I am damn lucky Fred didn't sue me for libel......... Read up on that - THANK YOU FRED>>> dang.. Sorry again. However, if Topix needs to know who I am - that is OK because I am just trying to get answers to help close this case.

Dawn
from the emerald city

Dawn

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So.......... As I have said before ..........

Be careful
You just might end up in court room with Fred Murray.
I have said before if this was my sister I would have taken action.

Now you can see others do the same. Take Action.

I knew I wasn't that far off base. I am guilty myself. Education is brain power. Sorry again Fred.......... close call

FireCat

Dawn wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid eo/crime/2009/02/26/ng.missing .teen.prank.cnn
I never like going in this direction.
Very intersting how the dogs work - we all smell different when alive. When deceased - we all smell the same - so the dogs do not need a piece of clothing.
They can actually smell the best under water

SOME dogs are trained to be water search dogs. Also read the link I posted. It's a good basic primer, though not the link Beth provided.

FireCat

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Suzanne wrote:

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Shack the nuclear family had no interest in Helena's forum. They were very withholding of information. See my post somewhere above about how another family (Ray Gricar, PA DA) contributed to Ray's forum and cleared up a lot of misinformation

It was most certainly NOT a lack of interest. It was a level of pain that kept them from posting. The immediate nuclear family (parents, siblings) were and remain VERY interested in finding Maura, however that is done. But maintaining or even posting to a forum--even a monitored one that had much less random weirdness than this one (and I'm not talking about "differing theories" I'm talking about some of the out and out strange behaviour that goes on here!) is simply too painful for immediate family members and close friends.

It's a kind of pain that none of us who have not endured the unexplained disappearance of a loved one cannot possibly comprehend. There is no closure, there is no healing, and every day is just like the first day, with no answers.

It is not, I repeat, a lack of interest. "Interest" doesn't even enter into the equation. I'm talking about sheer emotional inability to cope with the project. The emotional toll on Helena, a distant relative who never met Maura herself (since I believe she married into the family after Maura disappeared) was enough that she ended up ill and in a coma for several weeks.

It's not that they're "not interested." They just can't.

FireCat

Suzanne wrote:

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Firecat and Quija I loathe the word panties, I find it prurient and .... well pink. I never use this word and prefer the genderless words underpants and better yet underwear. FC, beverage is a perfectly respectable word but I agree, moist is iffy, borderline.

LOL, maybe it's the respectable part I have a problem with.:) Of course it's a fine word....I just don't like it. I'm weird that way.

Snowy White

“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

Joined: Jun 12, 2008

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Danvers, MA

Dawn~
Seems the issue existed between the two forums, Topix and the "new" forum...and was related to pursuing the identities of posters ("luring" them, in fact) via PM contacts, and with the hope of identifying thru a valid email address.
Apparently, it didn't happen...and the details after that escaped me.

I'd previously posted similar links about the subject before you resolved the issue.

Internet regulation continues to be a hot topic...and it's wide open to legal interpretation, with uneven application of 'laws' that are being defined.

In talking with a representative of NH, he/she would opt for stringent regulation, having been unmercifully harassed. I, too, completely understand this position.

It's too bad Fred Leatherman's veracity was challenged when he was telling the truth, given there are more who deceive and misrepresent themselves (right here!) than not.

It's will be interesting to continue to follow.

Snowy White

“ Good B chillaxin - TY Scott”

Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Comments: 1128

Danvers, MA

Before anyone thinks I'm slamming Advocator's forum, I did not and do not believe such action was taken...or that it was a method to secure such info.
Amen

quija

Concord, MA

Suzanne wrote:

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Firecat and Quija I loathe the word panties, I find it prurient and .... well pink. I never use this word and prefer the genderless words underpants and better yet underwear. FC, beverage is a perfectly respectable word but I agree, moist is iffy, borderline.

Katy Couric almost quit her job over having to utter the word "phlegm". I don't like the word "mature". Or "blossom" or "bloom", even though I could pass out from the beauty of a flower. Also "poignant" and "pert" and "intestate".

WE OBVIOUSLY NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT MAURA TO WORK ON.

Just read a book by James Renner called "Amy: My Search for her Killer". Author and so many detectives had their lives changed by being involved in this case. So many suspects, so little evidence. Still, just wanted to say that it ended on a note of hope that, as Dawn was saying earlier, someday someone will tell what they know. Hey! The last time I wrote about a "relevant" book I got slammed (Shack, was it you who said, "And NOW she's telling us what to read?" That wasn't really nice, ya know?)

Shack

Carlisle, MA

Quija...NO...I never said/wrote anything even close to anything about choices of books..
this time I am not to blame....

And...I don't like the words veggie and belly
button....

FireCat

Phlegm? Seriously??

What, she'd rather call it sputum or snot?

FireCat

Oh, I'm constantly telling people what to read. Several times a week, in fact. (though notably my efforts on Thursday of last week and Tuesday of this went unnoticed and I ended up lecturing about an assignment that no one had bothered to do. Awesome.)

Dawn

Snowy
With all due respect. I have not lured anyone. I simply asked Johnny Bravado if he CHOSE to email me and verifiy his IP.

This was Johnny's choice. Plain and simple - no luring intended and he has actually sent me PM's and the email has never been brought up.

If anyone should comment on this it should be Johnny B.

Fred Leatherman has posted that he has forgiven me and we agreed to put that situation behind us. I would suggest others do as well.

If someone feels that they are being slandered ie: the Murrays then I think they have the right to take action. If it was my family I certainly would.

Hope that clarifies.

Dawn

Beagle
In your round about way - are you trying to tell us in a riddle you were adopted?

Dawn