Where is MAURA MURRAY

FireCat, I'm a little wilted from trying to express myself in English...and trust you can handle the overload here. The left coast is awake. ;-)

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>These are certainly not the thoughts of the Vermont State Police PR sergeant who, now retired, was intimately familiar with the Connecticut River killings. But, of course, he is just a (retired) state cop. He's not a psychic or astrologer, so what could he possibly know?

Wow, Beagle. You really blew me away with that point by point refutation of the facts asserted in my post! Damn clever of you.

Fred

Mason wrote:

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Wow, Beagle. You really blew me away with that point by point refutation of the facts asserted in my post! Damn clever of you.
Fred

My deepest apologies. Time constraints. Still true. The VSP sergeant had a little closer view of the killings. And I don't think he was using Google Earth, either, which, by the way, does not constitute a point by point EXplication.

Okay.

We don't have a basis for a discussion, so good night.

Fred

Mason wrote:

CONGRATULATIONS TO ELSEWHERE BRIEFLY!

Oh Lord,

I deserve no credit whatsoever.

The human remains found in Warwick, MA have been slated to undergo DNA testing on Michelle Nicholeau's behalf if they have not been already.

The reason why I posted about the remains in Warwick, MA is was because we were discussing how decomposed Pamela Webb's body was when she was found in an effort to produce other gruesome cases in the area.

Both Pamela Webb and the Boston Nanny's cases are quite similiar and I, personally, believe they are related.

Please everyone know, the same information I have is the same public information everyone else is able to access on the world wide web.

Alden,

I happen to know who you are referring to re: retired VSP State Trooper. I believe I've read the same information that you have which is posted on the world wide web.

Thanks Ben

Some people have a hard time reading. I am very surprised.

Lets try counting for once.

How many times have I said I can't check IP's?

How many times did I say this was a offer to ONE poster - Johnny Bravado ?

How many times have I had said it was his option to agree or not agree to find out who he was?

Pick your own fights - K. This has nothing to do with Maura or you. I think it is childish.

Since reading does not help try going back and counting how many times I have made this clear.

DIVERSION at its best I might say and a waste of alot of peoples time - weeks.?? pretty sad.

A hearing happened yesterday in NH about the cold case task force and all you want to do is post about something that was resolved weeks ago.
This forum has gone down hill in my opion to hash over something that was resolved.

Johnny - PM'd me - Just like Fred and I are resolved.......... some people have nothing better than to do is keep beating a dead horse.

Sad and better use of time and energy.. good grief

I hope now some productive use of time can be spent by sending letters to the Govenor - to make sure this task force will happen.
that DOES pertain to Maura Murray.........
and so did the PM to Johnny just to add - he was meeting with the SBD.
None of anyone elses business as far as I am concerned. WEEKS of nagging - that is only words to describe it.. Doesn't matter how many times I have said - I REPEAT...I guess that just is not comprehension.. is not an easy for some. I think my words have spoken the truth. sad.. very sad.. that is why I will try to read some of the stuff on here - bashing other people etc.. not intersted. I myself will be following the hearing and writing letters - helping find facts and answers to Maura Murrays case..01% of everyones time could have done this years ago. Not to offend those - and you know who you are who HAVE helped - I thank you
Over and OUT

Snowy White wrote:

FireCat, I'm a little wilted from trying to express myself in English...and trust you can handle the overload here. The left coast is awake. ;-)

LOL. Try semaphore.

I did not intend to imply that Elsewherebriefly had inside information.

I am very impressed by the knowledge she has acquired over the years by hard work and study. She is a virtual encyclopedia of information and I respect her. I'm just a newbie out in the hinterlands trying to connect dots into meaningful patterns and, because she knows so much, she's a great resource and thoughtful person to consult. She deserves credit for what she has done and that's why I thanked her.

Snowy

Why do I ask that you are brining up something from weeks ago????????? bored? curious. You are brining up the identity thing alot......... has not been metioned for sometime. Curious. If I was you I wouldn't even bother replying. It is quite boring and since it was resolved I wonder why on earch you wouldn't have things to post that pertain to the case. Seems like a lot of time spent on something that did not even concern you.......... just odd. very odd

Please no reply needed - I think now there are more posts about this than I ever posted and I REPEAT...( how many times did I say that ?) have not traced nor do I plan to. I wanted to know if someone was BS's ing us about meeting SBD.

so no reply - they are out numbering the original request - substainaly...

I believe we are a community of souls summoned to work together for reasons we do not fully comprehend. The bright shiny object that captured our attention is the enduring mystery of what happened to Maura. As I have discovered, however, the path toward the solution is not smooth. We have obstacles to overcome and one of them is suspicion and distrust. Everyone has something positive to offer or they wouldn't stick around for very long. The whole is greater than the sum of its individual parts and by working together, instead of against each other, I believe we can transform our potential into something tangible that will include, but not be limited to, catalyzing LE's effort to solve the mystery of Maura's disappearance. Along the way we should take a moment every now and then to honor and thank others for their efforts.

Of course, the unpleasant choke-chain effect will have to be employed every once in awhile to bring the seers and the dreamers back in touch with mother earth and who is better suited for that task than the practical and irascible skeptic himself, the Honorable WTF?

As for my part, I'm pretty sure that the unidentified human remains found in Warwick, MA are Michelle Nicholaou's and Michael Nicholaou killed and dismembered her body to conceal the murder and his identity as the murderer. DNA testing will confirm or deny the theory.

Meanwhile, I also believe Michael Nicholaou was the serial killer who committed the Connecticut River Valley murders in the 1980's. I can't help but wonder if he murdered Pamela Webb whose dismembered remains were discovered near Franconia next to Route 3 approximately 2 miles from I-93 on July 18, 1989. That's less than a month after the presumptive remains of Michelle Nicholaou were found in Warwick. Could this be a mere coincidence?

Yes, it could be, but dismemberment is unusual if for no other reason than it's hard work, it takes a long time, and it's a bitch to clean-up after you're done. After going to all that effort, you're still not done because you have to risk discovery as you dispose of the remains in different places. If you take the time, as I have done, to review the information available on the internet regarding unsolved homicides, you will not see many references to dismembered remains. Therefore, it's reasonable to suspect that the person who disposed of the human remains in Warwick also murdered Pamela Webb, dismembered her body, and dumped part of it near Franconia. Whether the supposition will be definitively proven or disproven is another matter and only LE has the ability to do that.

We know one thing for certain. Nicholaou knew the Connecticut River Valley, western MA, eastern VT, and western NH like the back of his hand. Based on what I now know and absent evidence to the contrary, I'm inclined to presume that he is responsible for any unsolved murders in those areas, if he was in the area. He moved away in late 1988, but appears to have returned briefly at the of the year and again in the summer of 1989. He committed suicide in Tampa, FL on December 31, 2005, after killing his wife and stepdaughter. Therefore, he was alive on February 9, 2004.

Where was he?

La même chose,à plusieurs reprises et plus d'encore.

Dawn wrote:

Thanks Ben
Some people have a hard time reading. I am very surprised.
Lets try counting for once.
How many times have I said I can't check IP's?
How many times did I say this was a offer to ONE poster - Johnny Bravado ?
How many times have I had said it was his option to agree or not agree to find out who he was?
Pick your own fights - K. This has nothing to do with Maura or you. I think it is childish.
Since reading does not help try going back and counting how many times I have made this clear.
DIVERSION at its best I might say and a waste of alot of peoples time - weeks.?? pretty sad.
A hearing happened yesterday in NH about the cold case task force and all you want to do is post about something that was resolved weeks ago.
This forum has gone down hill in my opion to hash over something that was resolved.
Johnny - PM'd me - Just like Fred and I are resolved.......... some people have nothing better than to do is keep beating a dead horse.
Sad and better use of time and energy.. good grief

La même chose,à plusieurs reprises et plus d'encore.

Dawn wrote:

I hope now some productive use of time can be spent by sending letters to the Govenor - to make sure this task force will happen.
that DOES pertain to Maura Murray.........
and so did the PM to Johnny just to add - he was meeting with the SBD.
None of anyone elses business as far as I am concerned. WEEKS of nagging - that is only words to describe it.. Doesn't matter how many times I have said - I REPEAT...I guess that just is not comprehension.. is not an easy for some. I think my words have spoken the truth. sad.. very sad.. that is why I will try to read some of the stuff on here - bashing other people etc.. not intersted. I myself will be following the hearing and writing letters - helping find facts and answers to Maura Murrays case..01% of everyones time could have done this years ago. Not to offend those - and you know who you are who HAVE helped - I thank you
Over and OUT

In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides

Dawn wrote:

Snowy
Why do I ask that you are brining up something from weeks ago????????? bored? curious. You are brining up the identity thing alot......... has not been metioned for sometime. Curious. If I was you I wouldn't even bother replying. It is quite boring and since it was resolved I wonder why on earch you wouldn't have things to post that pertain to the case. Seems like a lot of time spent on something that did not even concern you.......... just odd. very odd
Please no reply needed - I think now there are more posts about this than I ever posted and I REPEAT...( how many times did I say that ?) have not traced nor do I plan to. I wanted to know if someone was BS's ing us about meeting SBD.
so no reply - they are out numbering the original request - substainaly...

Nescio quid dicas