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#16366
Mar 11, 2009
 
Mason wrote:
I can't imagine how a person's sexual orientation could have any relevance to this case.
It's a non-issue.
The FIT is a non-issue.
The Holocaust is a non-issue.
Beagle just went off into deep end for awhile. He'll be back.
Excuse me while I adjust my panties for a moment. They aren't anatomically friendly.
And thank you for that image, darlin.....I think. ROFL
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Mar 11, 2009
 
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Also know her her friends, acquaintances, colleagues, co-workers. We can't even find out the name of the gallery Maura worked at.
Just because WE can't doesn't mean LE and the investigators can't.

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sophie bean wrote:
I'm sorry, you call yourself a trained investigator and you're not advising us, you're TELLING us to disregard eyewitness testimony, however questionable -what? in favor of a fourth hand rumor that Maura might have been seen at the McD's in StJ?
Nope, not happening.
Check to see if hell has frozen over.

I have to agree here with SB. While I cannot use his ID of Maura directly I am convinced that the person he saw at the scene was close enough to Maura’s description that he believed it was her. Again, the only person I believe that was near Maura’s car being of the same general size, hair color, appearance, age, and sex would be Maura.

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Sophie and Ralph

Up in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

First comes love

Then comes marriage

Then comes Sophie

With a baby carriage!

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#16370
Mar 11, 2009
 
Mason wrote:
Well, I've suspected for a long time that Sophie Bean hates Ralph Nader and now I have proof.
Her own words convict her far more eloquently than anything I could ever say.
Grab the children and protect their ears!
She said,(gasp)
someone has a "neaderthalish mindset."
I am sure she was trying to use a word in English. Neanderthal-ish mindset. 8-) Just kidding SB, no harm intended.

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peripeteia wrote:
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Yes, the SBD likely did see Maura, but he did lie about things, and we have actually no proof of what he said to the Hanover dispatch, or if it was his wife that called, as he was no where near the phone when Haverhill call the SBD house a minute or so later?! Where did he go that he could not come to the phone? Odd! His/his wife's
report to 911 dispatch has not been released and I wrote to the District's Attorney Generals Office and requested this information and was denied. Therefore any proof of who called from the SBD and what was said is not known to us, other than what was said from Hanover to Haverhill dispatch.
It is no trap, it is what it is, SBD has told falsehoods, his motive for being untruth remains to be seen.
Perhaps it is the old story of looking for 15 minutes of fame, perhaps it was out of fear, perhaps he lies allot? No one knows except the police because he has not stepped up to the plate to explain himself to the press, the public, or Detective Healy. Perhaps the police told him to but a lid on things, and he simply couldn't resist talking to the press.
And BF, if you have just figured that it was a woman that the SBD reported seeing then perhaps
you might want to read the SBD statements a little more closely.
A grand jury might clear this matter up in a heart beat, but the wheels of justice are slow, and with a Judge telling the Murray's that "3 years is not such a long time to wait for answers in such cases" (murdered/missing, then it is understandable that the truth of what happened to Maura remains a mystery.
An obstruction of justice charge is usually what happens to someone who lies during a criminal investigation. It is a serious matter.
Initially the SBD stated to the press Maura was intoxicated, he changed his story, telling the family of Maura, the press and many others that she was not intoxicated, however the police state that the witness stated she was.
Law enforcement has refused to discuss the SBD statements, which is quoted in the press. The District Attorney's Office refuses to reveal the call to 911/dispatch Hanover.
WW, stated on this forum that he was likely told to change his story regarding the driver of the Saturn's sobriety, however she refuses to elaborate on her statement.
If my words are considered trashing someone, it is what it is, he has been caught making different statement. The police could set this matter straight, but they choose not to, and the SBD refuses to step up to the plate to explain his statement and his actions of what transpired after he left the accident scene.
This is not the only lie, but for now this will suffice to make the point that I am suspect of his statements?
No offense meant to the man, he is the author of his words, and as a member of the public I and others have the right to question his contradictory statements.
Peri, In the above post you call SBD a liar about '50' times You go one step further than even your own most outrageous previous allegations, you have him charged with obstruction of justice. It is no wonder that their is a reluctance on the part of the general public to become involved in the plight of a stranger in need. You get all your misinformation from third rate reporters misquoting an unlettered man not known for his language skills, a man who is very imprecise with details, a hapless victim placed under your very critical microscope.
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Mar 11, 2009
 
gvmeabrk wrote:
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But he did sing or hum the tune! Or, is this incorrect?
Like I said, bad joke and I feel bad that it was taken wrong by those who did not recall this. On the old forum people "talked" about how SBD just "hummed" nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh,~ or however that stupid song goes for the twilight Zone show. He did that supposedly to explain where Maura could have possibly went and I'm sure it was no big deal then or now.
Sometimes my jokes are dumb, that's the long and short of it.

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And thank you for that image, darlin.....I think. ROFL
best laugh all day. worth the re-read.
Mason

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Sophie,

Seriously, you need to go back to school and learn how to read and when you master that task, remember to read before you write.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Don't you have any pride?

You also need to go to anger management school.

Because ...

You've got -- how can I say this delicately --

ISSUES.

Not unlike my good friend, Miniver.

Surely you remember him?

Miniver Cheevy

Child of scorn

Wished that he'd never been born

And he had reasons.
Suzanne

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peripeteia wrote:
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Beagle you sound like Pike on the old forum, spitting nails.
Thank you Peri for the full admission of what FIT did to Pike !!!!! What was Pike's crime? Pike wanted to look at Amherst and my God how you all hated him for that. Pike was a highly intelligent, thoughtful man in one of the caring professions (was he a social worker) and how you guys beat up on him. Why ? Because FM did not want Amherst looked at. Why?
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sophie bean wrote:
I'm sorry, you call yourself a trained investigator and you're not advising us, you're TELLING us to disregard eyewitness testimony, however questionable -what? in favor of a fourth hand rumor that Maura might have been seen at the McD's in StJ?
Nope, not happening.
I think you'd do better if you stopped drinking before noon.
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sophie bean wrote:
I'm sorry, you call yourself a trained investigator and you're not advising us, you're TELLING us to disregard eyewitness testimony, however questionable -what? in favor of a fourth hand rumor that Maura might have been seen at the McD's in StJ?
Nope, not happening.
In favor of the evidence, darlin.

Go back and read. I believe Maura was behind the wheel and I've said so many times. I've also rejected the previous accident theory.

Please, have some respect for yourself and go see a counselor.

She will help you find out why you only spew.
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Remind me again of how you see "proof that SB hates Ralph Nader"? Of what, precisely, have I been "convicted"?
Of accusing those who are bigoted about anyone's sexuality of being neanderthals?

Damn. Busted.
And I feel so awful about it, too.
Perhaps that was supposed to be "humorous," Mason.
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Snowy White wrote:
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which dated back many years...and are not recent or clustered in location and timeframe.
nonetheless, it is reasonable to search back and rule in/rule out as some are doing...with professional insight, not fear and panic.
How curious. We have been unable to rule out Lovie Riddle, Micahel Nichalaou or Brian Rooney. I would hardly consider any one of the three to be a stretch. Would you?
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Snowy White wrote:
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i expected this answer, just from my own perceptions and awareness about recalling details from my life experiences.
to me, it's yet another interesting facet of human behavior.
at the end of your post i realized you are EXACTLY the right person to ask. boy, if anyone would know, it would be you.
it's good to keep this important info. in mind when witnesses, such as the SBD, are quoted or doubted here.
Yes and thank God for Defense Attorneys we all love to hate them but I know a young man who was imprisoned at age 18 for a crime he did not commit, he was released after 22 years in prison having spent over half his life in prison. The reason 1. Homophobic jury 2.Overzealous, lying, cheating prosecution 3. brain dead defense attorney.
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It would be a good deal easier to remove possibly unnecessary attention from SBD or other locals if there were some interest in actually discussing murderers and violent offenders who might have been in the area.
Mason

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WTF-the-original wrote:
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I am sure she was trying to use a word in English. Neanderthal-ish mindset. 8-) Just kidding SB, no harm intended.
Bill
Some of my best friends were Neanderthals and they were a lot nicer than Sophie.

Actually, all of my serial killer clients are nicer than Sophie.

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Mar 11, 2009
 
here's a link for Beagle...or anyone similarly interested...forwarded to me by someone who reads but has never posted here:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27087366
Suzanne

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Wowzer wrote:
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Just curious. Where have you arrived Peri because it sure seems like you're on the same road with the same people and the same stale old scenerios that haven't helped in over 5 years. Just look at your post # 16304. It could have been taken off the old MM forum.
The people that tried to help Maura that night have had every word they said picked to pieces for years. They've been picked to pieces so much there's not much left to pick apart so my question is how many more years are you going to pick their words and them apart before moving off the corner of BHR and 112? Seems it's you and a few others that are stuck in the past.
Very well said. As usual someone said it better than I did!
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Mason wrote:
Sophie,
Seriously, you need to go back to school and learn how to read and when you master that task, remember to read before you write.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Don't you have any pride?
You also need to go to anger management school.
Because ...
You've got -- how can I say this delicately --
ISSUES.
Not unlike my good friend, Miniver.
Surely you remember him?
Miniver Cheevy
Child of scorn
Wished that he'd never been born
And he had reasons.
What, because I refuse to acquiesce to your demand to not consider the variable testimony of an eyewitness?
I see.
Angry? You bet. Angry that a young woman is still missing after five long years, angry that her family still suffers, angry that MORONS can think of nothing better to do here than invent a "shadow sexual identity" for a young woman not here to "defend" herself from what, if true, would require no defense and which does not justify her disappearance.
If those are "issues" - good for me.
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