Where is MAURA MURRAY

Mason wrote:

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I don't do fiction.
It's non-fiction of a philosophical nature. A portion of it will deal with the origin, development, and transformation of the resurrection myth and how that ties into archetypes.
Sounds dry, but I assure you it won't be.

Sounds cool, actually. Though I confess I *am* rather sad you did not like my joke.:( sniff.....sob....

Suzanne wrote:

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Especially since it probably would be one of those shoddy, sensationalist "true crime" books that take about a week to write and are filled with all the obligatory sex, innuendo and violence and where they lack hard facts they just make it up as they go along.

it would naturally mirror conversations here...plenty of creative imagining in the absence of facts; a true mystery.

Creative imagining in the absence of facts?

Several experts (Dr. Godwin & S.T.A.L.K) have openly stated the person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again.

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Creative imagining in the absence of facts?
Several experts (Dr. Godwin & S.T.A.L.K) have openly stated the person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again.

I'm not trying to be difficult by asking this but this comment has always made me wonder how a fact such as this could be said with such certainty.
Did these experts go to the scene of Maura's accident and look at any evidence that might have been there? Did they physically look at her car and look at the dents, scratches etc? I was under the impression that they looked at pictures.
While there's a good chance that something bad has happened to Maura there's no evidence that we have seen that proves it without doubt.
Also when Dr Godwin stated this fact was he aware that Maura lied to the school about leaving and especially that she refused help at the scene by telling another lie that she had already called for help and with several houses in her view chose not to go to any of them for help?
I just fail to understand how someone can make such a statement with such certainty when there isn't even any substantial evidence that a crime has even been committed.

Wowzer wrote:

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While there's a good chance that something bad has happened to Maura there's no evidence that we have seen that proves it without doubt.
Also when Dr Godwin stated this fact was he aware that Maura lied to the school about leaving and especially that she refused help at the scene by telling another lie that she had already called for help and with several houses in her view chose not to go to any of them for help?

It is this that often leads me to doubt that Maura was a victim of foul play. She would know that a big yellow school bus is the best she can do when stranded in the middle of no where. She would know that a school bus driver is a person has been vetted to the level of being considered safe enough to be left alone with children. And this nonsense about him being big and burly - Maura is smart enough to know that predators come in all shapes and sizes. Why would she refuse his offer of assistance? Unless she knew someone was coming along to pick her up.

Mason wrote:

Or,as ooOOoo put it, "we all need to lighten up."
As The Lord said, "Go forth and multiply."
Whereupon Beagle said, "What about the square root of minus one?"
Fred

A philosophy professor in a logics class was discussing the fact that while there are double negatives in language ("He don't do nothing."), which equals a positive, there is no such thing as a double positive. At which point one of his wiseass students said, "Yeah, yeah."

elsewherebriefly wrote:

I am glad you brought up writing a book Mason.
My heart sinks whenever someone mentions or even implies the possibility of a book about Maura.
I understand that is is possible for Maura's family to register the rights to Maura's name, if they've not done so already, so no one can profit from her tragedy.
Do you happen to have any sound legal advise or input on this very subject?

We have freedom of the press in this country.
If the book is not exploitative, what harm would it do? It could get Maura the high profile sought by the people on this forum who are trying to get Maura on Nancy Grace, Greta, America's Most Wanted etc.

Lower Slower Delaware wrote:

<quoted text>I was just curious I did quite a few shows in MA/NH/RI before my wife and I moved from MA to DE 2 1/2 years ago.
I saw you are from London I was stationed at Lakenheath with the USAF 494th fighter squadron for 12 years.
BTW, I'm safe, snowy knows me personally, and will vouch for me I'm sure.
Bill

Yes i know you are safe. You mentioned Brockton. And I'm guessing at the type of music that you play, I believe it to be the type that I am woefully ignorant of.(that was no doubt one of those pesky grammatical errors we are always hearing about). Just wondering if you knew a guitarist/performer named Ben Fitzgerald.

Hi all, got back on computer to find hundreds of new posts here...

Read an interesting comment in a Greg Iles novel: In a missing young woman's case, if her friends say that they considered her a friend, but "didn't get in her business" and often didn't know what she was doing, LE will look into possible romantic involvement with someone outside her milieu, like an older man, or someone who might be thought of as inappropriate. This may or may not be relevant, but it was just stated so plainly that it jumped out at me.

Mason wrote:

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I wouldn't go so far as to say they are entirely lacking in hard facts.

That's very true. I should not have made that generalization. Some of these books are actually very good.

Lower Slower Delaware wrote:

<quoted text>I was just curious I did quite a few shows in MA/NH/RI before my wife and I moved from MA to DE 2 1/2 years ago.
I saw you are from London I was stationed at Lakenheath with the USAF 494th fighter squadron for 12 years.
BTW, I'm safe, snowy knows me personally, and will vouch for me I'm sure.
Bill

More talking in code here. Being in the USAF is a sientologitz dream, depending on the assignment.

Wowzer wrote:

<quoted text>I just fail to understand how someone can make such a statement with such certainty when there isn't even any substantial evidence that a crime has even been committed.

It is actually worse than that in my mind.

Any new scientific method needs to be open to scrutiny for peer review. He makes the statement that there have been others besides Maura that this person(s)(he doesn’t even know if it’s one or more apparently) has done this two but cannot or will not try to include that in the information.

Again, I call bullshit. Someone making a living peddling voodoo disguised as science. If its not bullshit he would open his methods and practices up for peer review.

Bill

Mason wrote:

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Jung's concept of the collective unconscious that links all human brains is now being reformulated as a linkage at the quantum level.
If only we could access it on demand, we would know what happened to ..

What do you mean by reformulated? Jung as a consequence of his friendship with the quantum physicist Wolfgang Pauli wrote about the connections between the collective unconscious, synchronicity and quantum physics. Curious about this reformulation.

quija wrote:

Hi all, got back on computer to find hundreds of new posts here...
Read an interesting comment in a Greg Iles novel: In a missing young woman's case, if her friends say that they considered her a friend, but "didn't get in her business" and often didn't know what she was doing, LE will look into possible romantic involvement with someone outside her milieu, like an older man, or someone who might be thought of as inappropriate. This may or may not be relevant, but it was just stated so plainly that it jumped out at me.

Well I think it might be relevant. It could relate to my above post about the possibility of Maura being picked up on rte 112 by an unknown companion.

Suzanne wrote:

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Especially since it probably would be one of those shoddy, sensationalist "true crime" books that take about a week to write and are filled with all the obligatory sex, innuendo and violence and where they lack hard facts they just make it up as they go along.

Like Norman Mailer's "Executioner's Song?"

WTF-the-original wrote:

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It is actually worse than that in my mind.
Any new scientific method needs to be open to scrutiny for peer review. He makes the statement that there have been others besides Maura that this person(s)(he doesn’t even know if it’s one or more apparently) has done this two but cannot or will not try to include that in the information.
Again, I call bullshit. Someone making a living peddling voodoo disguised as science. If its not bullshit he would open his methods and practices up for peer review.
Bill

I agree.

Beagle, what do you know about 459 Russell st. Hadley, Mass.?

whiston wrote:

Hi all, does anyone have a record of where LE first mentioned the backpack.Firecat seems to think it was on the BOL before mr Murray arrived in NH.I have always understood that sgtSmith did not hear back from Umass until Tuesday evening after the BOL was issued.Maybe LE in NH did get a hold of Mauras family or umass P.D much earlier than was reported.Still wondering in a big way who and when was the first person in Mauras roomm after she vanished form Aherst/Woodsville.take care philip

HPD almost certainly heard back, within hours of finding the Saturn, from someone at UMass PD. Even though the VEHICLE was registered to Maura's father, the student sticker was CURRENT and was issued to - presumably - Maura.

But if the sticker has recently been removed while the car sat or sits at or near NHSP, then that removal possibly points to the fact that maybe the Saturn's UMass parking sticker was NOT issued to Maura but WAS issued to someone that knew Maura; and that there was some fear that someone with access to the parking sticker records would do some kind of research or, worse, make some kind of "correction." Or public statement.

Maura may have shared the use of the Saturn with someone else?

Regarding Maura's room... Ask yourself who, other than Maura, had a key to her room. Maura was not the only person with a key to her room. Just like when you rent a hotel room or, in most cases, an apartment, you are not always the only person with a key.

Anyone have access to both her room key and her car? Were the keys to both room and car together on the same key ring?

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Creative imagining in the absence of facts?
Several experts (Dr. Godwin & S.T.A.L.K) have openly stated the person(s) responsible for Maura's disappearance has done it before and will do it again.

Well said. Perfect example.

Wowzer wrote:

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I'm not trying to be difficult by asking this but this comment has always made me wonder how a fact such as this could be said with such certainty.
Did these experts go to the scene of Maura's accident and look at any evidence that might have been there? Did they physically look at her car and look at the dents, scratches etc? I was under the impression that they looked at pictures.
While there's a good chance that something bad has happened to Maura there's no evidence that we have seen that proves it without doubt.
Also when Dr Godwin stated this fact was he aware that Maura lied to the school about leaving and especially that she refused help at the scene by telling another lie that she had already called for help and with several houses in her view chose not to go to any of them for help?
I just fail to understand how someone can make such a statement with such certainty when there isn't even any substantial evidence that a crime has even been committed.

They're just advertising their services, keeping their name in circulation, hoping it attracts more business.

These PI things are often about enhancing their reputations. They can say, "I found Jane Doe," that's why I charge the most money. "I'm the best."