Where is MAURA MURRAY

Which reminds me, Maura's car could have come around that bend at any time prior to the accelleration and thud that got the attention. Maybe just ask JM if he heard it too, looked out and saw it back up. If it was the other way around, that would be good to know too. And why can't we get that hospital worker who claims she clocked out and passed by the Saturn and the police car, with noone around?
Actually, CS might have been at the W-Mans or at the bus and that's why, but the timing is off. How hard is it to verify? Then again, maybe it has been.

paris

Suzanne wrote:

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And Fred used the phrase 'squaw walk' to NHLE regarding what may have happened to Maura.

Yes, I remember that too and it took awhile to see it again. Maybe Maura didn't wait for her checks because she didn't want to wait. But she took out so much money and in one report it says there was food in the car. Anyone else remember this?

Beagle

White Wash wrote:

These are business rigs not private and they are pretty high off the road so someone isn't going to see it on the flatbed!
Not something I've seen done by any business seen it done with wood on private rigs or logs!
If I was hiding ole say in the woods given the
hight of the flatbed would give someone to see in the night of the direction of the car was heading.
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Poster may have been referring to the Saturn's having been towed by a pickup truck?

Beagle

Lady Gray wrote:

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With all due respect, as is known, there aren’t many facts known. As I’ve said before, the only reason I continue to read is to keep the facts that ARE known……accurate.
Below is a portion of Sharon R’s posting from the old forum. For those who don’t know of Sharon, she is the Mother of Maura’s fiance, Billy. Sharon and her family were extremely involved for quite awhile in Maura’s disappearance. This is a posting of her’s regarding FBI involvement:
Sharon:
The FBI was not EVER involved in Maura’s case as an investigative body: simply put, they were FINALLY asked to interview Maura’s family and friends in Hanson…the UMass Police interviewed the campus friends, professors, etc…..and I am convinced the NH SP invited the FBI to do the interviews because of us reporting that the FBI had offered their help as soon as they were invited…if you do a media search, you will find articles stating that Scarinza announced that the FBI were invited…again, in my humble opinion, that announcement was to take off the heat -- also, Scarinza, at the same time, told Fred that the FBI was invited in, yet while Fred was driving back from Troop F barracks, the director of the regional FBI called and spoke to me, leaving the message that we were no longer to pursue them in Maura’s case…that the case was being managed by NH SP and that was the end of the matter until such time the NH SP chose otherwise. The director made it clear to me that his call was at the request of NH SP.

Was the identity of the caller confirmed?

Anne

elsewherebriefly wrote:

Paris & Anne,
Helena found the article! Thank you so much Helena.
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Friday, February 20, 2004
Search for missing woman expands to Vermont
By DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI
Associated Press Writer
"After the accident in the Woodsville section of Haverhill, a witnesses said Murray asked him to call a wrecker, but not the police. Police were called and an officer was on the scene in less than 10 minutes, but Murray was gone."

Thank you elsewhere and Helena.....sometimes your sure you remember but wonder if you heard it right! I wonder where the Woodsville section of Haverhill is?

paris

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Poster may have been referring to the Saturn's having been towed by a pickup truck?

Sure, maybe it was towed to NH and fell off causing the damage. It's been said by many and it sure would be good to know the miliage on the Saturn. But how? Last oil change vs estimated driving after Holiday break?

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Dawn wrote:

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I must be slllllllllllooooooooooooooooow ..
I can't figure out what you two are seeing........ any clues?

just relating...by living here, in MA...and pondering that Suzanne must be a bit younger, and, therefore, more patient than i am.

i have no Maura clues.

paris

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paris wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, I remember that too and it took awhile to see it again. Maybe Maura didn't wait for her checks because she didn't want to wait. But she took out so much money and in one report it says there was food in the car. Anyone else remember this?

Correction: it said the was enough food in the car for a few days away. That's what I read. In the Globe or something

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Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Goofy fences make goofy neighbors.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm...

here's what 'cha do at a primitive level.

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paris wrote:

<quoted text>Correction: it said the was enough food in the car for a few days away. That's what I read. In the Globe or something

first time i've heard this.
doesn't seem to be a plan for suicide.

Beagle

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Mason wrote:

The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency and it has no legal authority to investigate violations of state laws.

This is an absurdity. Often, state penalties are stiffer than federal ones. Federal LE can enforce state laws anytime. And they do.

Beagle

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Mason wrote:

WW said,
"Like or not NOBODY TELLS THE FBI to go away!"
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Your statement is correct, but incomplete.
The FBI will not officially involve itself in an investigation unless it concludes there is probable cause to believe that a federal crime was committed. If it decides there is probable cause, it may still defer to local law enforcement depending on the seriousness of the crime and its allocation of available resources. If it decides to get involved, it will assume the lead role in the investigation and it will define the role to be played by the state agency, if any.
The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency and it has no legal authority to investigate violations of state laws.
No law prohibits the FBI from assisting a state law enforcement agency investigating a violation of state law, if that agency has formally requested its assistance. Its authority to investigate always will be limited to doing whatever the state agency has asked it to do and the state agency can withdraw or revoke its request for assistance at any time.
Apparently, NHSP limited the FBI's role to interviewing members of the Murray family, which would have been a simple task of short duration.
Based on my review of a few cases that have been discussed here (Dow and the tent fire cases), I have a very low opinion of Troop F's professionalism and investigatory expertise. It probably realizes and resents the FBI's lack of respect for it and intentionally limited the FBI's role to a simple and rather menial task as a way of signaling its resentment of the FBI's attitude.

Please recall that the Massachusetts State Police and the Drug Enforcement Agency had to deliberately leave out the FBI from their effort to apprehend Jimmy Bulger. The FBI has plenty of dirt on its hands. In the old days, they were more professional. Today, many of the special agents are simply street cops who cheated their way to a C+ average at a college with low standards.

Beagle

Dawn wrote:

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True. If LE have left out other details - this may be one the did not share with the family. There might have been a note but NOT a suicide note - note explaining something.. I do not know. ONLY LE has that info. I would love to hear from a student that was there at the same time. How did they keep all these kids quiet?

They didn't have to keep any kids quiet.

Anne

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Maybe she was heading to a place with a kitchenette.

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WTF-the-original wrote:
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I would think that this is no brainer. Brianna and Maura led entirely different lifestyles. Brianna was likely abducted/murdered by acquaintances. She knew and probably hung around with the person(s) that did her harm. She was certainly at higher risk because of the people she associated with. Maura would have been in the lowest of risk categories with no known affiliation with that type of element so it is far more likely a stranger abduction or runaway or suicide. At least that is my opinion.
Bill
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Beagle, i agree with Bill...if even for less concrete reasoning.

the greatest differences between Brianna and Maura seem to be defined by their apparent associations and lifestyles, IMO.

academics and athletics certainly don't rule out drug and alcohol use/abuse, but Maura's achievements more often than not involve focus and assume a certain level of responsibility.

Beagle and others may suspect another side...or view...but that hasn't been established, yet.

Beagle

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Suzanne wrote:

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You were the most nasty of all on MMM. Nasty, harsh, cruel, judgemental.

And lies like a rug.

Beagle

paris wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, I remember that too and it took awhile to see it again. Maybe Maura didn't wait for her checks because she didn't want to wait. But she took out so much money and in one report it says there was food in the car. Anyone else remember this?

Direct deposit?

Beagle