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Wowzer

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Mar 18, 2009
 

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White Wash wrote:
Shoot Wowzer I meant!
Don't shoot Wowzer!!!!
Just joking.:)

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#17192
Mar 18, 2009
 
Suzanne wrote:
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But I thought ETOH was the worse thing to take if you were freezing? Or is that hyperthermia that I am thinking of?
WTF would know.
Actually hypothermia (low body temperature) is made worse by alcohol. The reason, and itís a double whammy, is because itís a vasodilator. Meaning it opens the blood vessels. People would get this warm rush in their extremities thinking that it was warming them up, when in fact it was bringing all that cooled blood from the extremities back to the bodyís core cooling the core even more and making them more hypothermic.

In the old days, people use to say that they ďfroze to deathĒ. What they really meant, though most apparently didnít know it was they didnít freeze to death. They died from hypothermia, a lowering of the body core temperature. Obviously if they stayed outside dead long enough in below freezing temperatures then just like anything made of water they would be found frozen. Alcohol makes hypothermia more likely even though it feels like its making them better to the person drinking it or more susceptible to hypothermia if they had been drinking it.

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Mar 18, 2009
 
White Wash wrote:
I only asked for the quoted materials as I wanted to read the enter stories!
We can cut and past any quotes to make anyone look like a GOD or ASS by arranging them the way
we want to present our opinions.
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White Wash, your asking me to cite those articles had nothing to do with my decision refrain from posting any further.

It's because I've resolved that Weeper was right and I am taking his advice.

I am hoping to return home and be there for the next planned volunteer search for Maura though. I also made a promise to Brianna Mailtand's parents a few years ago that I'd conduct a search for her as well.

And like I wrote to you on the new forum, I did not learn about your father's tragic death (suicide) until you brought it up here on this forum.

I've proven that I have the ability to retain vast amounts of information and can also re-convey this informatio with a high rate of accuracy.

All I can think of was a tiny glib from a local paper that consisted of (2-3) sentences with the person's name altered to ensure privacy mentioning and a death in a hotel room. I didn't know what it was or what it meant and it was never discussed in further detail.

Was that it?

I had no idea that was your father if it was.

You've made it appear that people were discussing you and your father's suicide which was not the case.

I am sorry that vague article that went unnoticed by the majority (because we don't know you personally) caused you so much pain and distress.

I really am.
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#17194
Mar 18, 2009
 
Wowzer wrote:
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Your Irish? Well Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
Nothing like the smell of corned beef, cabbage, potatoes and carrots wafting thru the house.
LOL, thank god for that.

Thanks.
FireCat

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#17195
Mar 18, 2009
 
White Wash wrote:
Are you thinking of Northland Auto?
Who heard the call on the scanner and rolled?
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I guess I must be, thanks.
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Mar 18, 2009
 
Wowzer wrote:
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Don't shoot Wowzer!!!!
Just joking.:)
Ouch! Hot tea out my nose!:-D

May I also add a bit of punctuation (since I'm known for it)?

Don't shoot, Wowzer!

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Mar 18, 2009
 

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Beagle wrote:
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1. Why are you so sure she had no known - KNOWN - affiliation with "that type of element?"
2. Why are you so sure Maura Murray was "low risk?"
3. HOW do you know in what WAY Maura was known to certain people in the Amherst area?
Maura Murray may have appeared to be in the lowest risk category, but that ain't necessarily so. Maura was a student there for 2-3 semesters? That's plenty of time to attract the wrong kind of people. Even if they have plenty of money, nice houses, real estate holdings, etc.
If Maura Murray had something in common with David Eliot Marks (b. 2/23/1952), then it's something well worth looking into.
Beagle, buddy,

I said two things that really need to be kept in mind.

First I said known, KNOWN to me. If you know something that disputes that then let us know.

Second, I was always poor writing style to use the phrase ďin my opinionĒ. Clearly its my opinion because I am writing it. I still use it on public forums to help people know that its not a fact, its just my thoughts, as I did in this case. So, Iíll try again and Iíll write it slower this time. InÖ. myÖ.. opinion.

Thatís all it is nothing more. If you think that Maura was a drug dealing, crack whore with ties to the Russian mafia and satanic cults then thatís all fine. A little proof would be useful if you want me to change my opinion not just make obscure references that I really donít have time to search out. Too lazy, sorry. Iíll read information, Iíll even research some information, but I wonít go on snipe hunts. If the information is there then just post it and reference it like anyone else would.

Bill

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Mar 18, 2009
 
Should have read:

Second, I was always told that is was poor writing style to use the phrase ďin my opinionĒ.

Bill
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I too knew little about your father's death except what you've told us in bits and pieces on the forum. And I'm truly sorry for your loss.

I also think that this sort of event not only doesn't define YOU as a person, it is and ought to be true that his death does not define HIM as a person. It may initially for those who didn't know him, but you who knew him your whole lives know that this was only a small, terrible coda to the person he truly was.

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Mar 18, 2009
 
White Wash wrote:
What crowd?
Art? Running?
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Two deaths, separated by seven years and 2000 miles. Who both lived in Mass at one time. I donít even know what he died from, do you? He could have died from pneumonia or cancer. How does that tie into the grand theory?

An asteroid passing within the orbit of the moon is a near miss (240,000 miles). When it actually goes right through the middle of the earth were it was seven years earlier, you know what they call that? Nothing because it has no freaking meaning.

Sorry, but I'm going to need a little stronger proof that Maura and David were connected to Whitey Bulger and Winter Hill Gang than this.

Bill
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Mar 18, 2009
 
Elsewherebriefly,
Good luck to you can't think of a better way
to expand either of these cases.

You stated that your choice was your own
and that's cool what wasn't Lady Gray making
it appear it was I driving you off!

I do believe the exact statement was that the town
was covering up my Father's death now you can
call it what you wish but the bottom line it was
deep and painfull and had ZERO to do with Maura's
case other than it happen up the road from her accident and my Uncle towed both cars! Other than
that nothing to do with Maura but it was used to
make it appear the town was covering up things and
that was WRONG and MISLEADING! That happens alot here!

I wish you all the best and I hope and pray you
find the answers we all seek.

K
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White Wash, your asking me to cite those articles had nothing to do with my decision refrain from posting any further.
It's because I've resolved that Weeper was right and I am taking his advice.
I am hoping to return home and be there for the next planned volunteer search for Maura though. I also made a promise to Brianna Mailtand's parents a few years ago that I'd conduct a search for her as well.
And like I wrote to you on the new forum, I did not learn about your father's tragic death (suicide) until you brought it up here on this forum.
I've proven that I have the ability to retain vast amounts of information and can also re-convey this informatio with a high rate of accuracy.
All I can think of was a tiny glib from a local paper that consisted of (2-3) sentences with the person's name altered to ensure privacy mentioning and a death in a hotel room. I didn't know what it was or what it meant and it was never discussed in further detail.
Was that it?
I had no idea that was your father if it was.
You've made it appear that people were discussing you and your father's suicide which was not the case.
I am sorry that vague article that went unnoticed by the majority (because we don't know you personally) caused you so much pain and distress.
I really am.
Dawn

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Mar 18, 2009
 
Snowy White wrote:
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for the record, i hadn't called you schizo, but previously defended you against cruel remarks.
as "Pansie", however, you did a pretty good job on making accusations about Maura's mental health.
SB most recently expressed extreme frustration about your many monikers; i agree.
i have no obligation to prove anything to you, and find your theories to be bizarre and violent.
Interesting. You thought I was Pansie. Now Pansie in your mind is Beagle.

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Mar 18, 2009
 
And just so there is no possible mistake. I was agreeing with WW about the statement(s) made by Beagle. I wasn't asking WW the questions, I am asking Beagle.

And WW I am very sorry for the loss of your father. I do remember hearing about that situation you talk about.

Bill
Dawn

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Mar 18, 2009
 
Snowy,
I would imagine Pansie writing style is very differnt from mine. We all know that Beagle is always spot on. We know several posters have commented they had look up some of the words he used. I do think some of his poster's are contraversial - However, I don't think anyone can disagree he is obviosly very intelligent and very well educated. He also does not come across as snooty because he is well educated or from New England

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Mar 18, 2009
 
WTF-the-original wrote:
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Actually hypothermia (low body temperature) is made worse by alcohol. The reason, and itís a double whammy, is because itís a vasodilator. Meaning it opens the blood vessels. People would get this warm rush in their extremities thinking that it was warming them up, when in fact it was bringing all that cooled blood from the extremities back to the bodyís core cooling the core even more and making them more hypothermic.
In the old days, people use to say that they ďfroze to deathĒ. What they really meant, though most apparently didnít know it was they didnít freeze to death. They died from hypothermia, a lowering of the body core temperature. Obviously if they stayed outside dead long enough in below freezing temperatures then just like anything made of water they would be found frozen. Alcohol makes hypothermia more likely even though it feels like its making them better to the person drinking it or more susceptible to hypothermia if they had been drinking it.
Bill
Maybe I was right, huh Snowy?
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Mar 18, 2009
 
White Wash, I am so sorry for your loss, I had no idea...if it was mentioned before, I totally missed it. Having had to face a similar family circumstance I certainly understand the complicated loss. Take care.

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#17207
Mar 18, 2009
 
quija wrote:
Ben --- Thanks for posting the NewsBank link. It's really good! I've found things I couldn't find elsewhere. Got any more links like that up your sleeve?
Yeah. http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/...
Dawn

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#17208
Mar 18, 2009
 
Snowy,
To top it off I also understand he comes from elite lineage from Cape Cod.
White Wash

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Mar 18, 2009
 
Thanks to all for understanding!

This forum just keeps getting side tracked and I didn't bring up my Father's death for anything but
to make the point people post things that really
have no bearing on this case.

I am not saying I don't get worked up when someone claims my Uncle dumped that car or
allowed it to be damage while impounded but
you don't know him and I realize good people
are few and far in between for some here.
But that garage has been in business for a 100 years they can't be doing it wrong to stand the
that kind of test of time.

Right or Wrong Maura herself left UMASS and head North she locked her car and left it.

Before during and after all matters.

So back to the business!

Anyone ever found out where Maura got the condo number? Did Fred & kids go after the BIG D? Not
not how and why does anyone think triggered that for her?
WTF-the-original wrote:
And just so there is no possible mistake. I was agreeing with WW about the statement(s) made by Beagle. I wasn't asking WW the questions, I am asking Beagle.
And WW I am very sorry for the loss of your father. I do remember hearing about that situation you talk about.
Bill
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Mar 18, 2009
 
Lots of paperwork involved in that I hear!

Joking is way past due around here!
Wowzer wrote:
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Don't shoot Wowzer!!!!
Just joking.:)
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