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Mar 23, 2009
 
This also confirms the locals stance. I would have the same one to if I knew - she was helped from a terrible situation. Only Maura would know what that would be. The timing has always been odd - how do you go missing in that little amount of time.......... In a rural area.

also - mason's comment of cottage hosp worker - how come we don't know gender or a name ? that could be the missing link
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Mar 23, 2009
 
ScooterD wrote:
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Fred, check your PM's.
Fred
Check out Project Jason's site - Kelly Jacowski has this as well has passed legislature and has more in the works.
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#17616
Mar 23, 2009
 
Beagle
What is your take on Quija new theory?
White Wash

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Mar 23, 2009
 
Not sure about Det. Col.witness
only know when I mention RO story
to the Chief Willliams he stated
it had been checked into!
Mason wrote:
I remember when Detective Columbo mentioned the red pickup parked on Bradley Hill Road. I was very surprised because that was the first time I'd read anything about that and I couldn't and still don't understand why that information wouldn't have been a top priority to check out, given what RO said about the suspicious behavior of a person driving a red pickup truck near the Stage Stop convenience store about 30 minutes before Maura disappeared. She last saw it heading E/B on the 112 toward the Weathered Barn. The accident was only a mile from the store.
I have no idea how many red pickup trucks were in the area on February 9, 2004, and I have no specific reason to believe that the driver of that truck had anything to do with her disappearance. I don't even know if he turned down a side road before the Weathered Barn, for example, and none of the witnesses who live along the 112 between the Weathered Barn and the Bradley Hill Road intersection reported seeing such a truck.
Nevertheless, the scent trail leads me to believe that Maura got into a vehicle about 100 yards beyond the Saturn in the direction of the intersection.
Seems to me that a sighting of another suspicious red pickup truck about a half mile up Bradley Hill Road from the intersection around the same time might cause a person to wonder if the same red pickup was the subject of both sitings. If so, the truck would have passed by the place where Maura Murray got into a vehicle at approximately the same time she disappeared.
Can someone please explain to me why this possibility wasn't thoroughly checked out 5 years ago?
So, I asked if the witness was recontacted to verify the time and date of the sighting.
cricket noises
more cricket noises
Okay, I know that I'm not entitled to know this information,
BUT
this matter should have been resolved 5 years ago.
Either it's a good lead or it isn't and if it isn't why was it mentioned for the first time a month or so ago?
I feel like I'm being played and I don't like it.

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I feel like I'm being played and I don't like it.
Get use to that feeling. I had it happen several times to me on the old forum. In particular the second forum. There is definitely more known than is being released by the family and certain others. I have mentioned before that if it is releasable then it should be released. If it isn’t releasable then it shouldn’t be released. Trickling out information gives the distinct impression that people are being played and again that is counter-productive though, be aware, that the family appears to be content with no progress by these types of forums as long as it keeps Maura’s name out there.

At least that is the conclusion I have come to after 5 years.

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How many of you folks that post on here have actually ever driven on rte 112 after 7 p.m. in the winter months? I had the misfortune of breaking down one night a few years back and had to walk almost 10 miles and never saw one car the whole time, and any houses you see are only summer residents. And you can forget cell phones as there is no service. Fun night, I thought I was going to freeze to death before I got home.

As for asking if it was a F-150 I've been in touch with Helena Murray about something that happened last sunday when I went up to swiftwater to visit a friend of mine. I do not want to get into it on here.

I only found this site last night and was shocked to see my cousin named as a murderer on here by oh my in St. Johnsbury. I have not accused anyone nor will I until I have sound proof of their involvement in Maura's disappearance. I wanted to get a discription of this truck and where it was seen as I know almost every person up there, and still visit very regularly. In fact I just got back from there last night when I found this site.

I was under the impression she was heading to Lincoln NH why else would she be on that road not knowing anyone in that area. I read she had vacationed in the Lincoln area and I thought she was heading there. And I'm glad I was able to humor one member on here when I said ( you have a better chance of seeing god than you do a car after 8 p.m. on 112 ) The truth is it's a very remote area and for the entire length of 112 from bath to Woodstock there is only 1 store, and then the Weathered barn. Thats it for businesses for 28 miles. After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.

So the part thats been the hardest for me is since there is almost no traffic that time of year that someone I grew up with may be responsible for this. In large cities people aren't as surprised when something like this happens but where I'm from this never has happened and you would never thought it would. When I go by the big pine tree that is now her memorial I still can't believe that no trace of Maura has been found.
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Chaplin...there is a red truck by a barn in one of the Bruce McKay videos. Please check it out.
M_Chaplin

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#17621
Mar 23, 2009
 
The Franconia cop that Liko shot? Where is the video? Thank you mcsmom
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Mar 23, 2009
 
M_Chaplin wrote:
How many of you folks that post on here have actually ever driven on rte 112 after 7 p.m. in the winter months? I had the misfortune of breaking down one night a few years back and had to walk almost 10 miles and never saw one car the whole time, and any houses you see are only summer residents. And you can forget cell phones as there is no service. Fun night, I thought I was going to freeze to death before I got home.
As for asking if it was a F-150 I've been in touch with Helena Murray about something that happened last sunday when I went up to swiftwater to visit a friend of mine. I do not want to get into it on here.
I only found this site last night and was shocked to see my cousin named as a murderer on here by oh my in St. Johnsbury. I have not accused anyone nor will I until I have sound proof of their involvement in Maura's disappearance. I wanted to get a discription of this truck and where it was seen as I know almost every person up there, and still visit very regularly. In fact I just got back from there last night when I found this site.
I was under the impression she was heading to Lincoln NH why else would she be on that road not knowing anyone in that area. I read she had vacationed in the Lincoln area and I thought she was heading there. And I'm glad I was able to humor one member on here when I said ( you have a better chance of seeing god than you do a car after 8 p.m. on 112 ) The truth is it's a very remote area and for the entire length of 112 from bath to Woodstock there is only 1 store, and then the Weathered barn. Thats it for businesses for 28 miles. After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.
So the part thats been the hardest for me is since there is almost no traffic that time of year that someone I grew up with may be responsible for this. In large cities people aren't as surprised when something like this happens but where I'm from this never has happened and you would never thought it would. When I go by the big pine tree that is now her memorial I still can't believe that no trace of Maura has been found.
I've driven it in a February, but only during the day. A lot of heaves.

"Oh My" was alledgedly libelous of a lot of people in the infancy of this thread. Which one is your cousin?
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M_Chaplin wrote:
How many of you folks that post on here have actually ever driven on rte 112 after 7 p.m. in the winter months? I had the misfortune of breaking down one night a few years back and had to walk almost 10 miles and never saw one car the whole time, and any houses you see are only summer residents. And you can forget cell phones as there is no service. Fun night, I thought I was going to freeze to death before I got home.
As for asking if it was a F-150 I've been in touch with Helena Murray about something that happened last sunday when I went up to swiftwater to visit a friend of mine. I do not want to get into it on here.
I only found this site last night and was shocked to see my cousin named as a murderer on here by oh my in St. Johnsbury. I have not accused anyone nor will I until I have sound proof of their involvement in Maura's disappearance. I wanted to get a discription of this truck and where it was seen as I know almost every person up there, and still visit very regularly. In fact I just got back from there last night when I found this site.
I was under the impression she was heading to Lincoln NH why else would she be on that road not knowing anyone in that area. I read she had vacationed in the Lincoln area and I thought she was heading there. And I'm glad I was able to humor one member on here when I said ( you have a better chance of seeing god than you do a car after 8 p.m. on 112 ) The truth is it's a very remote area and for the entire length of 112 from bath to Woodstock there is only 1 store, and then the Weathered barn. Thats it for businesses for 28 miles. After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.
So the part thats been the hardest for me is since there is almost no traffic that time of year that someone I grew up with may be responsible for this. In large cities people aren't as surprised when something like this happens but where I'm from this never has happened and you would never thought it would. When I go by the big pine tree that is now her memorial I still can't believe that no trace of Maura has been found.
I have driven it M Chaplin. Many many times.
***After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.***
I disagree that 112 is as remote as you say except for later at night when everyone is hunkered down for the night. There are several full time residences between BHR and N. Woodstock. 3 or 4 very just near 112 and 116 with a few before and after.
I'm not saying that there are is no distance in between these homes because there is and it is not a distance I'd want to walk in the winter at 20 below.
Don't forget also that 112 is a main route to Loon Mountain from 91 in Wells River.
It's much more traveled the last 5 or so years than it was 10 or 15 years ago when you knew everyone that drove by at night.
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#17624
Mar 23, 2009
 
Anne,
Don't feel bad - I get the same thing even when asking a simple question? If a question is a duplicate - it is a simpe mistake. We are human and so much info on here stated in different ways. Sometimes its hard to keep up. I got nuts even when I talked about something that was fact. I'm sure I will get a nuts on this one too. Keep in mind - not everyone here is really wanting to work together. So we can just do the best we can to keep Maura's name out there and bring awareness. With so few clues -..... Have a great day! I am not trying to offend anyone.. so please take this post for what it is - observation and only my opinion - which we are entitled to. Have a great one. Dawn

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#17625
Mar 23, 2009
 
I have driven it periodically throughout the year. Never really had any problem with it but I almost always have what I need if I run into difficulties. Rt 302 can also be pretty desolate in the winter as is Rt 112 east of Lincoln and many other roads in Northern NH. I thought that most people from northern NH were pretty self-reliant from what I have seen and know that help is not always right around the corner.

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M_Chaplin wrote:
How many of you folks that post on here have actually ever driven on rte 112 after 7 p.m. in the winter months? I had the misfortune of breaking down one night a few years back and had to walk almost 10 miles and never saw one car the whole time, and any houses you see are only summer residents. And you can forget cell phones as there is no service. Fun night, I thought I was going to freeze to death before I got home.
As for asking if it was a F-150 I've been in touch with Helena Murray about something that happened last sunday when I went up to swiftwater to visit a friend of mine. I do not want to get into it on here.
I only found this site last night and was shocked to see my cousin named as a murderer on here by oh my in St. Johnsbury. I have not accused anyone nor will I until I have sound proof of their involvement in Maura's disappearance. I wanted to get a discription of this truck and where it was seen as I know almost every person up there, and still visit very regularly. In fact I just got back from there last night when I found this site.
I was under the impression she was heading to Lincoln NH why else would she be on that road not knowing anyone in that area. I read she had vacationed in the Lincoln area and I thought she was heading there. And I'm glad I was able to humor one member on here when I said ( you have a better chance of seeing god than you do a car after 8 p.m. on 112 ) The truth is it's a very remote area and for the entire length of 112 from bath to Woodstock there is only 1 store, and then the Weathered barn. Thats it for businesses for 28 miles. After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.
So the part thats been the hardest for me is since there is almost no traffic that time of year that someone I grew up with may be responsible for this. In large cities people aren't as surprised when something like this happens but where I'm from this never has happened and you would never thought it would. When I go by the big pine tree that is now her memorial I still can't believe that no trace of Maura has been found.
This is why I believe the odds against Maura encountering an opportunistic serial killer who just happened to show-up during a period of less than ten minutes that elapsed between the SBD's departure and Sgt. Smith's arrival are so astronomically high in her favor that one can almost say such an encounter is impossible.

I'm going to briefly revisit the issue of the red pickup truck to bury it. I cannot believe the cops and the PIs failed to thoroughly investigate the possibility that the driver was involved in or witnessed Maura's disappearance. In fact, I think it's impossible they failed to do that.

Detective Columbo has some splainin to do regarding why he brought it up recently and why he failed to answer some obvious questions that I'm sure he could have answered. For example, did this incident happen on the same evening in during the same time frame as Maura's disappearance?

I believe he deliberately tossed us a red herring and I am furious.

From now on I am going to presume that everything he posts is a calculated effort to keep us running like hampsters on a wheel.

Columbo, who's your master?

Why are you deliberately trying to obstruct our effort to solve Maura's disappearance?

You're representing the person responsible for Maura's disappearance, aren't you?

You're covering his trail by dropping false clues to attract attention to Haverhill, aren't you?

That means the answer will be found in Amherst, doesn't it?

You're disgusting.
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My other half and I just drove it last saturday night at 9:30 p.m. and never met a single car. It's still remote there. Yes there is a couple full time residents, in a distance of 20 miles. Where I live now there are thousands of people in 10 miles. 112 at night in February is one dark lonely place. Does anyone know about these McKay videos and where to find the shot with the red truck near a barn that mcsmom was talking about?
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Mar 23, 2009
 
Actually there have been a bunch of log cabins built just past Bradley Hill.
There is also the Bailey House which is year round!
There are a couple of teachers who live out there
full time as well.
So there are few far and few but still a few.
There was also a Bath School Board meeting that
night so some people where out and about.

Well sad to say the motto is guilty until proven innocent for many here! I too have had my share
of jaw dropping family moments on these forums!
Sadly the truth often is of no interest to some but those of us who it is. Please keep on posting!

Do you have contact with Skye still? It would be interesting to know her and Claude's spin on the cabin search after they moved out!
Also any information on Claud's brother would be great! Supposedly it was he who contacted Fred Murray w/a knife and the talk of how Claude harmed
Maura. Ever time I've seen Claude he's been in a company truck which would be pretty easy to see!

Ever been over RT 112 in a bus now there is some
fun!
M_Chaplin wrote:
How many of you folks that post on here have actually ever driven on rte 112 after 7 p.m. in the winter months? I had the misfortune of breaking down one night a few years back and had to walk almost 10 miles and never saw one car the whole time, and any houses you see are only summer residents. And you can forget cell phones as there is no service. Fun night, I thought I was going to freeze to death before I got home.
As for asking if it was a F-150 I've been in touch with Helena Murray about something that happened last sunday when I went up to swiftwater to visit a friend of mine. I do not want to get into it on here.
I only found this site last night and was shocked to see my cousin named as a murderer on here by oh my in St. Johnsbury. I have not accused anyone nor will I until I have sound proof of their involvement in Maura's disappearance. I wanted to get a discription of this truck and where it was seen as I know almost every person up there, and still visit very regularly. In fact I just got back from there last night when I found this site.
I was under the impression she was heading to Lincoln NH why else would she be on that road not knowing anyone in that area. I read she had vacationed in the Lincoln area and I thought she was heading there. And I'm glad I was able to humor one member on here when I said ( you have a better chance of seeing god than you do a car after 8 p.m. on 112 ) The truth is it's a very remote area and for the entire length of 112 from bath to Woodstock there is only 1 store, and then the Weathered barn. Thats it for businesses for 28 miles. After where she crashed is some summer homes and and abandond village called witcherville that was deserted in the 1800's. It's all White Mountain National forest from there.
So the part thats been the hardest for me is since there is almost no traffic that time of year that someone I grew up with may be responsible for this. In large cities people aren't as surprised when something like this happens but where I'm from this never has happened and you would never thought it would. When I go by the big pine tree that is now her memorial I still can't believe that no trace of Maura has been found.
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Get use to that feeling. I had it happen several times to me on the old forum. In particular the second forum. There is definitely more known than is being released by the family and certain others. I have mentioned before that if it is releasable then it should be released. If it isn’t releasable then it shouldn’t be released. Trickling out information gives the distinct impression that people are being played and again that is counter-productive though, be aware, that the family appears to be content with no progress by these types of forums as long as it keeps Maura’s name out there.
At least that is the conclusion I have come to after 5 years.
Bill
Thanks, for opening my eyes. I can't believe I wasted an entire weekend on a snipe hunt.

I'd love to wring Columbo's neck, right now.

I am really pissed off at him.

At least I now know to disregard everything he says.

And, avoid him like the plague.
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Mar 23, 2009
 
When your car breaks down, in this case the motor blew because of a the oil pump seizing. Without the engine running to produce heat all you have left is walking. It was a long cold walk, you can't really be any more resourceful than that wtf. You knock on someones door in the north country that late out there odds are your gonna see the wrong end of a gun. As for oh my they were talking about my cousin Skye Weeks. I'm glad they don't post on here anymore. I have found some videos but they are all about the shooting, and when he stopped Liko in 03. Also about when he stopped this girl sarah but no truck footage.
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Mar 23, 2009
 
Snowy White wrote:
like EWB, i am reluctantly called back, in my case, by Shack's erroneous conclusion in response to my tireless effort to communicate clearly.
please keep in mind that my mentioning my community at all stemmed from a direct question about whether i feel reasonably "safe" from crime in my community.
Shack's indirect reply on another forum:
"Recently in the Topix Postings, there was made mention to the effect that Haverhill would appear to be a town in which there might be "one way in and one way out".
in fact, I was describing MY TOWN and MY COMMUNITY as having entrance and egress by "one way in and one way out". NOT HAVERHILL.
she went on to appropriately describe "access" in the Haverhill area.
...and writes:
"It is indeed a small community, however the many roads within, are like a lab rat maze and only locals would know those
inner roads, as to exit/egress. An outsider could be still still driving around in circles trying to get out. The Towns/Precincts roads have a spider web like formation. "
in these instances, when imprecise language and meaning is misinterpreted and falsely attributed, then perhaps i have failed to communicate very well.
Snowy
I completly understand where you are coming from. I too have tried to explain something and it was twisted and twisted many times - and the comments were never the way I tried to convey them AT ALL. When we are senging information - in text - tone can be interrupted - quite easily. Once one misunderstands others try to jump on the band wagon. It's beyond frusrtrating and as Ben F has came to the defense and say - don't kill the messenger. I think we all have learned ( I hope) that things are misunderstood - once clarified by the specific poster - move on. I do hope you stay around and have agreed with you on many theories or ideas - mainly - we both kept asking for facts. Take care and please do stay. Dawn
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White Wash, you were spot on about Columbo.
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Mar 23, 2009
 
Part 2

I also think it is important to let the past be the past - as a forum - a group of people trying to find Maura Murray - it is very distracting when posts are brought up that have been resolved - posting page numbers etc. They are all there for people to read if they choose to go back. My theory changes daily - so what I might have thought a month ago - really doesn't matter today - except to me, myself, and I
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