Where is MAURA MURRAY

whiston wrote:

Hi all,When the Murrays or Law Enforcement reveal more about Maura's life before Feb 09 2004 we will move toward finding her.If no search was done in Amherst somebody knows for a fact she was in N.H.The saturn being found there and mr Atwood ,who had never seen her before, are not enough for me.Take care philip

Marta-Ela wrote:

sorry if i am boring but i heard about this case of maura few days ago and i am very interested.
i would be grateful and very happy if someone answer my questions :)
...please
1. what was with human remains found in the a frame house?
2. Did someone tako dna test? was it from maura? 3. what does the police said?
4. does Claude Molton have something whit mauras missing?
5. is a frame house owned by Claude Molton ?
6. i read somewhere that shortly after disappearance one man caled the police and said that he think that his brother have something about mauras disappearance bacause he starts acting strange the day maura went missing?
7. at 6. question....is that man brother of claude?
8. do you think that maura and brianna went missing by the same man?
9. "their investigation and immediately recognized the knife and the story about the cadaver dogs going bonkers at the A-Frame as a deliberate red herring." what does if mean? which knife? does fred had something about a frame evidence? what happened with dna test from A frame house?
10. "I believe the red pickup truck is another red herring unless Fred Murray was driving a red pickup truck on Monday night, February " why is that red truck so importand? i have not read about truck anywhere...
..i really hope that someone will be so kind to answer me those question...
..please

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Snowy White wrote:

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The following statements are authored by Mason and appear between pp.79- 82 /General Discussion of Find_Maura_Murray,. They represent the context for a theory being developed about Fred Murray’s possible involvement in the disappearance of his daughter.
Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:57 pm
“I suspect he picked her up and I believe HPD and the NHSP reached the same conclusion within a day or two after she disappeared. I think he has been their only suspect since that time, which is why they completely shut him out of their investigation and immediately recognized the knife and the story about the cadaver dogs going bonkers at the A-Frame as a deliberate red herring. But they aren't certain if he assisted her to disappear, in which case he knows where she is and did not commit a crime, or he killed her and disposed of her body somewhere far away from Haverhill and Woodsville, and probably not in NH.”
Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:07 pm
“If he can provide us with work attendance records that prove he was in Bridgeport, CT working on 2/9 and 2/10, I will reconsider my opinion. I doubt he can do that and I think HPD and the NHSP have known that since a few days after Maura disappeared.
I think the PIs have been played for fools and the previous accident theory within a few miles of the accident site is 100% bullshit.
I think we've been lied to and played for fools and I do not appreciate it.”
Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:10 pm
“I believe the red pickup truck is another red herring unless Fred Murray was driving a red pickup truck on Monday night, February 9, 2004.”
Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:23 pm
“I agree with Philip and unless I see satisfactory evidence that he was at work in Bridgeport, CT on Monday and Tuesday, February 9th and 10th, I will continue to believe that he was in New Hampshire Monday evening and Tuesday morning.”
Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:57
“I suspect he picked her up and I believe HPD and the NHSP reached the same conclusion within a day or two after she disappeared. I think he has been their only suspect since that time, which is why they completely shut him out of their investigation and immediately recognized the knife and the story about the cadaver dogs going bonkers at the A-Frame as a deliberate red herring. But they aren't certain if he assisted her to disappear, in which case he knows where she is and did not commit a crime, or he killed her and disposed of her body somewhere far away from Haverhill and Woodsville, and probably not in NH.”
Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:44 pm
“First of all, you are correct to characterize it as a theory. I do not claim credit for it because it's a group mind production. I certainly deserve some credit for it, maybe a lot because I've put a lot of thought into it. I don't want to offend anyone by claiming the whole thing as my own and others are welcome to claim credit if they so desire. I'm sure some people will be offended because it is so unthinkable and it's only a matter of time before a counterattack is launched. Nevertheless, it's an opinion that Fred Murray can destroy without engaging us in debate. If he was working in Bridgeport, CT on February 9th and 10th, depending on the hours that he worked, he could not have been in New Hampshire.
My answer to your question is that it was all an act designed to convince people that he had nothing to do with her disappearance. He did not have to act to express anguish because that was a true emotion that he felt.
That is all that I'm prepared to say at this time. Anything else would not be appropriate on this forum at least until we know if he has an alibi.”

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Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text> Let me try to answer your quesitons without getting everyone up at arms.
To the best of my knowledge, there were no human remains found in the A frame. There was, what was reported, menstrual fluid found on a closet carpet-LE had no input on this search but REPORTEDLY (by member(s) from this or other forums, state that the carpet sample was split with one half going to LE and the other half going to PI's. I have not seen any results from either LE or PI's so that leads me to think its nothing but a false report. The dogs going "bonkers" in the A frame was, what I understand, a response to the menstrual fluid in the closet. The dogs did refind a woman who was discovered years ago in the vicinity of the A frame, maybe that's where the bonkers bit comes in or the human remains is being misinterpretted.
Claude Molton lived in the A frame with his girlfriend at the time maura disappeared. They did not, and do not, own the A frame though. We do not know if Claude had anything to do with Maura--it's a pretty inconceivable grasp for me that he did though--as she was there, then gone--not realy enough time for him to find her and abduct her. The knife was reportedly given to Fred Murray by Claude's brother who lived in the area. He has since passed away so is not availabel for comment. Again, LE was not directly involved in securing this "evidence" and reportedly would not accept the knife at first so Fred mailed it to them obtaining a delivery receipt. I have seen no proof of the receipt; I'm not sure if anyone else has. The red truck was seen at the Stage Stop store by a neighbor and the occupants were acting "suspiciously"--watc hing the area resident (RO) and then left when she was in closer proximity. A similar red truck was also seen pulled over on the intersecting road that is closest to where Maura's vehicle was found. The red truck is reported to have red #'s/letters on the license plate/registration plate, similar to those used in Massachusetts, lending to some poeple's thoughts that maybe this disappearance was preplanned with someone Maura knew in Mass(or Fred) or she was followed to NH. Of course, there is still no proof that it was even Maura in the vehicle, nor is there proof that she even left Amherst of her own free will.
I hope that helps, and I further hope that I stepped on NO toes in what I've said.

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please clarify wrote:

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What "progress"?

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Marta-Ela wrote:

"there is still no proof that it was even Maura in the vehicle," ....ok but police should take finger prints wrom the saturn..
... and check if fr3ed went to job that day..
and what about her boyfriend ( bill or william )? was he suspect?
does her mother/sisters have alibi? maby she had another boyfriend?
...and one more thing...if she was going to go away for good...she would not emailed her profesor..she wanted to go only for a few days...

peripeteia wrote:

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Well if Fred is a suspect, odd he has never been INTERROGATED by law enforcement (info from faimly
p.s. Fred has an alibi
Snowy there seems to be no limits to how low you can scrap the bottom of the barrell, but take solice you have company.

peripeteia wrote:

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much progress has been made, we know for sure the author of Maura being intoxicated, came from the SBD
the red truck was seen on Bradley Hill Road by the Dog Watcher, as well as by RO at the SSStore
the car in neutral says the car was pushed or towed, by someone other than Maura, impossible to extract keys from ignition when in neutral
we have the grafton county sherrif logs, FW statements does not support SGt. S accident report
we know FW has changed her story re:, new timeline needs to be drawn, assuming the information provided by WW is the correct version also
info re: JM not being home is most definately in error, why this was said or printed, is unknown
we know RO has changed her story, first afraid of red truck driver, now she thinks he was a look out
and times have not been clarified, other than it was after 7 p.m. and before law enforcement came along.
we know there are inaccuracies and questions which need asking in the SBD and his girlfriend statements and report to 911
Hanover 911 calls (original call by SBD's household are being witheld
the only witness who has not changed their story is JM, his statement do not support the SBD statements
we know the sightings of Maura since the accident were not Maura
we know this is a criminal investigation and that Maura did not run off to start a new life or took her own life regardless of the spin of the posters
we know a cold case squad will be investigating Maura's accident
we know there are posters who work endlessly trying to twist and turn facts and defame the family, Maura, and posters seeking the truth; for what reason, who would hazzard to guess.

Marta-Ela wrote:

who saw red truck?
who was driver?
is tepperature in america measured in Farenhajt (° F) or (°C)? because i want to know what temperature was on night maura went missing?

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WHITE WASH wrote:

I was under the impression
Billy,Fred,Kathleen all where question
extensive by LE espeacially Kathleen
who didn't mention speaking to her
sister and when they found out after
speaking to the supervisor they went back and question Kathleen more when
the whole cellephone records being
give by Sharon started.
I think when there is any missing person LE investigates all family involved.
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peripeteia wrote:

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much progress has been made, we know for sure the author of Maura being intoxicated, came from the SBD
the red truck was seen on Bradley Hill Road by the Dog Watcher, as well as by RO at the SSStore
the car in neutral says the car was pushed or towed, by someone other than Maura, impossible to extract keys from ignition when in neutral
we have the grafton county sherrif logs, FW statements does not support SGt. S accident report
we know FW has changed her story re:, new timeline needs to be drawn, assuming the information provided by WW is the correct version also
info re: JM not being home is most definately in error, why this was said or printed, is unknown
we know RO has changed her story, first afraid of red truck driver, now she thinks he was a look out
and times have not been clarified, other than it was after 7 p.m. and before law enforcement came along.
we know there are inaccuracies and questions which need asking in the SBD and his girlfriend statements and report to 911
Hanover 911 calls (original call by SBD's household are being witheld
the only witness who has not changed their story is JM, his statement do not support the SBD statements
we know the sightings of Maura since the accident were not Maura
we know this is a criminal investigation and that Maura did not run off to start a new life or took her own life regardless of the spin of the posters
we know a cold case squad will be investigating Maura's accident
we know there are posters who work endlessly trying to twist and turn facts and defame the family, Maura, and posters seeking the truth; for what reason, who would hazzard to guess.

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peripeteia wrote:

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much progress has been made, we know for sure the author of Maura being intoxicated, came from the SBD
the red truck was seen on Bradley Hill Road by the Dog Watcher, as well as by RO at the SSStore
the car in neutral says the car was pushed or towed, by someone other than Maura, impossible to extract keys from ignition when in neutral
we have the grafton county sherrif logs, FW statements does not support SGt. S accident report
we know FW has changed her story re:, new timeline needs to be drawn, assuming the information provided by WW is the correct version also
info re: JM not being home is most definately in error, why this was said or printed, is unknown
we know RO has changed her story, first afraid of red truck driver, now she thinks he was a look out
and times have not been clarified, other than it was after 7 p.m. and before law enforcement came along.
we know there are inaccuracies and questions which need asking in the SBD and his girlfriend statements and report to 911
Hanover 911 calls (original call by SBD's household are being witheld
the only witness who has not changed their story is JM, his statement do not support the SBD statements
we know the sightings of Maura since the accident were not Maura
we know this is a criminal investigation and that Maura did not run off to start a new life or took her own life regardless of the spin of the posters
we know a cold case squad will be investigating Maura's accident
we know there are posters who work endlessly trying to twist and turn facts and defame the family, Maura, and posters seeking the truth; for what reason, who would hazzard to guess.

WHITE WASH wrote:

Det.Col. to my knowledge never comformed the description of the DW siting so we don't really know if these
where the same truck!
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peripeteia wrote:

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much progress has been made, we know for sure the author of Maura being intoxicated, came from the SBD
the red truck was seen on Bradley Hill Road by the Dog Watcher, as well as by RO at the SSStore
the car in neutral says the car was pushed or towed, by someone other than Maura, impossible to extract keys from ignition when in neutral
we have the grafton county sherrif logs, FW statements does not support SGt. S accident report
we know FW has changed her story re:, new timeline needs to be drawn, assuming the information provided by WW is the correct version also
info re: JM not being home is most definately in error, why this was said or printed, is unknown
we know RO has changed her story, first afraid of red truck driver, now she thinks he was a look out
and times have not been clarified, other than it was after 7 p.m. and before law enforcement came along.
we know there are inaccuracies and questions which need asking in the SBD and his girlfriend statements and report to 911
Hanover 911 calls (original call by SBD's household are being witheld
the only witness who has not changed their story is JM, his statement do not support the SBD statements
we know the sightings of Maura since the accident were not Maura
we know this is a criminal investigation and that Maura did not run off to start a new life or took her own life regardless of the spin of the posters
we know a cold case squad will be investigating Maura's accident
we know there are posters who work endlessly trying to twist and turn facts and defame the family, Maura, and posters seeking the truth; for what reason, who would hazzard to guess.

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peripeteia wrote:

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absolutely true, we do not know if these are the same truck
this is the job for law enforcement to investigate, RO original statement to the press is that she felt that LE had dismissed this sighting of the Red Trucj
p.s. we do know that LE stopped about 4 red trucks
(maroon) in the area shortly after Maura's accident
these trucks more or less match the model seen by ROb

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peripeteia wrote:

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Well if Fred is a suspect, odd he has never been INTERROGATED by law enforcement (info from faimly
p.s. Fred has an alibi
Snowy there seems to be no limits to how low you can scrap the bottom of the barrell, but take solice you have company.