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black kat

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#19004
Tuesday Apr 21
 
Is it possible that someone Maura knew at West Point had recently died in combat? Could that have set off her emotions?

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Tuesday Apr 21
 
black kat wrote:
Is it possible that someone Maura knew at West Point had recently died in combat? Could that have set off her emotions?
Not impossible, but no one in her class would have graduated as an officer yet and because of the strict hierarchy of cadets it would be unlikely she would have known many if any upperclassmen, and certainly not well.

Just my opinion.

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If my daughter were missing, I wouldn't even blink about authorizing my employer to release my time sheets.
The ducks appear only to be interested in puerile chit-chat with each other and surrounding Fred Murray with adoration and an impenetrable barrier that insulates him from responsibility, supplying any information whatsoever or answering any questions, no matter how legitimate reasonable, and relevant they may be.
They march around in lock-step with their heads bobbing up and down quacking here and quacking there like an obedient little harem of ducks. They are so focused on defending their lord and master that they could care less about what happened to Maura.
They serve no useful purpose because their only function is to protect Fred Murray at any cost even if it means Maura will never be found. The do not want to know the truth and will do anything to avoid facing it.
They are as useless as teats on a bull and deserve no respect from anyone.
They haven't contributed anything significant, important, or useful to the search for Maura and they are worse than worthless because they conceal information from and insult anyone who offers to help.
Worse, they feel no shame.
They are individually and collectively failed human beings consumed by their own selfish needs.
I do not include quija, gvmeabrk, wowser, snowy, L4M, suzanne or elsewherebriefly in the sad group I call ducks.
you just correctly identified yourself to a tee mason as being the duck in this room and you are the one that seems to be throwing red herring around in this discussion group.
Fred has been to court up here in N.H. and in Mass. trying to get more help to find his loving daughter and was denied any assistance yet he continues to search for her as a loving Father would....
Footprints in the snow
By Brian McGrory, Globe Columnist | February 27, 2004
this is an article that should be read http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...


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#19007
Tuesday Apr 21
 
WTF-the-original wrote:
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Not impossible, but no one in her class would have graduated as an officer yet and because of the strict hierarchy of cadets it would be unlikely she would have known many if any upperclassmen, and certainly not well.
Just my opinion.
Bill
True, except that she had an older sister and a boyfriend who were West Point graduates. Possibly that makes it a little more likely, though I don't know how much.
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Tuesday Apr 21
 
WTF-the-original wrote:
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Not impossible, but no one in her class would have graduated as an officer yet and because of the strict hierarchy of cadets it would be unlikely she would have known many if any upperclassmen, and certainly not well.
Just my opinion.
Bill
Wasn't her boyfriend Billy an upperclassman while she was there?
OH MY

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quija wrote:
OH MY said: "As I recall Sgt. Smith saw foot prints going towards Coventry or east but didn't follow them "
I ask:
"HOW FAR EAST? Just to Bradley Hill Road? Or beyond? That would be new info!"
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I can't figure out if it's unusual that the Murray family found the several possible clues (A-frame blood, knife from incarcerated, terminally ill Moulton brother, underwear that wasn't Maura's) or if it was the opposite ---- if it was more likely they found these things because they did more searching than LE? I just don't know.
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I think the timing of releasing "the red pickup with a man outside and in the woods on Bradley Hill Road" statement is odd..... after 5 years. It wouldn't hurt to go back and see what we were discussing each time a new piece of information was dropped. I'm guessing it was Amherst we were talking about.
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If Claude's girlfriend Skye was acting strange after Maura disappeared, wouldn't it be more likely (than murder out of the blue) that they accidentally hit Maura in the road, and if they were under the influence of some drug/alc, that they made bad decisions about how to handle a possibly fatal accident, where to bring Maura, etc., to avoid arrest?
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Ben Franklyne said something that reminded me of my first car accident when I was 22. It was my own car, but my parents had chipped in heavily for it. So that made it much more "emotionally loaded" to have wrecked it. I was so depressed by the accident that I remember telling friends I wished I'd died. I really beat up on myself. To me it was like A DEATH IN THE FAMILY. And my friends said, "[Quij], it is NOT a person, it's just a car." And I didn't remember all those thoughts and feelings until Ben Franklyne just said something! I wonder if Maura, in her much more poised manner, went through the same out-of-proportion reactions to the Sat. night crash? I understand that the only way to miss clinicals and not be discharged from the program would be something as serious as a death, but this just struck me as an interesting similarity and possibly a clue into how Maura felt?
Quija your not the first to think that Maura was hit by a car and everything you say makes sence.
There were reportedly foot prints in either Smith's report or in Chief Williams report but I forget where the info came from but I believe I read it somewhere in some facts released to the public!
As far as Cocaine Claude and High as Skye are concerned they both seem to run in vicious circles or did back in the 90's up to 2006 or so but are both as parinoid as a Meth smoking Crack Heads but seem to be able to keep thier cool under fire especially Cocaine Claude but Skye has her limits, I was told she was really drunk and they were asking about Maura and Skye started to spill her guts when someone in the car triied to push her and she jumped from the car running!
There is alot of hear say when it comes to Maura and where she might be as the little group that I have heard has been commiting crimes up there have very tight lips and it is going to take alot of prying to get any info or it will take one of them to get into trouble with the law and they may make a deal to get off the hot seat, that is my opinion and it really is hear say that I have been told...I wish I had something more tangible. I want these criminals Jailed just like the rest of you, there have been way to many murders up in that area in the last 5 years, some which have not been solved and I believe all perputrated by people who know one another and are friends or were, I just wonder if there is a gang of some kind! I just hope Maura wasn't one of the victums. This is just my opinion whether there is a gang of some kind!
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Quija your not the first to think that Maura was hit by a car and everything you say makes sence.
There were reportedly foot prints in either Smith's report or in Chief Williams report but I forget where the info came from but I believe I read it somewhere in some facts released to the public! I have no clue as to how far these supposed footprints went as I was not there.
As far as Cocaine Claude and High as Skye are concerned they both seem to run in vicious circles or did back in the 90's up to 2006 or so but are both as parinoid as a Meth smoking Crack Heads but seem to be able to keep thier cool under fire especially Cocaine Claude but Skye has her limits, I was told she was really drunk and they were asking about Maura and Skye started to spill her guts when someone in the car triied to push her and she jumped from the car running!
There is alot of hear say when it comes to Maura and where she might be as the little group that I have heard has been commiting crimes up there have very tight lips and it is going to take alot of prying to get any info or it will take one of them to get into trouble with the law and they may make a deal to get off the hot seat, that is my opinion and it really is hear say that I have been told...I wish I had something more tangible. I want these criminals Jailed just like the rest of you, there have been way to many murders up in that area in the last 5 years, some which have not been solved and I believe all perputrated by people who know one another and are friends or were, I just wonder if there is a gang of some kind! I just hope Maura wasn't one of the victums. This is just my opinion whether there is a gang of some kind!

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#19011
Tuesday Apr 21
 
black kat wrote:
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Wasn't her boyfriend Billy an upperclassman while she was there?
I believe by one grade????? I was referring to juniors and seniors. I think only seniors might have graduated and been able to be deployed by the time that she disappeared. Haven't done all the math but off the top of my head I believe it unlikely that with needed training after college, etc that it would be likely to be anyone either than a senior, possibly a junior but I even think that unlikely. Don't forget that even after graduation they still actually need training to be deployed that can last usually from three months to a year.

Not gospel, just thoughts off the top of my head.
Bill

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Mason wrote:
"OK, I'll accept the explanations about automatic messages. I've never used them. I apologize.

Is anyone willing to PM me on the other site and give me Fred Murray's telephone number, or Helena's. I'd prefer to speak directly to him."

Firecat wrote:
"I will not do so without Helena's and/or Fred's permission, no."

Firecat later wrote:
"As it happens, I just spoke to Helena a moment ago; she called me after lunch. She asked me to remind you that she does have the phone number you posted online, and if there is a need to contact you, she has the means to do so."

Lady Grey wrote:
"One more thing, you need to get with Ben Franklyn and discuss automated responses by email - Helena is having difficulty with her computer and she has her email set up to generate an automated response."

In the words of Gordon Ramsey: "Right"

A public source shows that Helena had [and probably still has] a YAHOO email address from 2006 - and this address' function is so important - I have no expectation that it would be neglected.

I do expect that the email address will see more then its share of spam -[I've had my email address in the same type of place]- BUT Yahoo email has one of the best spam filters I have ever used.

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#19013
Tuesday Apr 21
 
I should clarify that I doubt that a Junior or Sophomore could have actually graduated and been deployed at the time that Maura had her crying fit or whatever you want to call it.

Again, not impossible but I think it unlikely. And if that was the reason why not tell the person she was with. Or Billy or her sister at WP. Wouldn't they have all been in the same circle of freinds? Just seems unlikely to me that no one else would have come up with that as the reason that she had her crying fit. You know - "oh yeah, she probably heard Tommy was killed, thats probably why she was crying". Didn't hear any comments to that effect.

Bill
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Tuesday Apr 21
 
Snowy White wrote:
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of course. i know that is the purpose of your questioning his whereabouts.
any answer provided by Fred Murray outside of the formal investigation might put him in legal jeopardy.
That is true but Fred has given statements to the press and to the police and participated in this investigation from the beginning trying to digg up information leading to his daughters where abouts! He has offered a reward and has questioned many people himself to the point where some people have pressed charges against him for tresspassing ect. I really don't believe Fred has had anything but good intentions though. I also don't believe he hurt his daughter like mason the one throwing the red herring around about Fred. I do believe the rag in the tail pipe is either to distract us or put there by some bad person trying to slow that saturn down and it would work if the car had an exaust leak the car would have run but with no power, but who is to say the car was put there or driven there and by whom? It is like why would Maura have even been up there in the first place but there are rumors that she knew someone up there close to where the car was found. Could it be someone from that area was trying yo help her and she ran into trouble with someone she was trying to get away from or was the car put into a garage the day before in that area and then planted at the MMM scene but actually taken somehow elswhere and the coverup started at the MMM site or was she taken from the MMM site or near there because of an accident What I guess I am saying is where did the cover up start if there is a coverup or is it plain foul play, my head spins from all of this how about any other people in this room does your head spin from all of the information that might be all misinformation??????
What a tangled web they weaved to try and decieve. From supposed death bed confessions by claudes brother who is bow dead from cancer to wine in a locked car, ect. ect. ect.

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Snowy White wrote:
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of course. i know that is the purpose of your questioning his whereabouts.
any answer provided by Fred Murray outside of the formal investigation might put him in legal jeopardy.
Or - supposing that NHPD doesn't have this information and they have not expressed their suspicions - perhaps - if Fred Murray provides this information to them -(if he hasn't already) THEY MIGHT PROVIDE HIM WITH MORE OF THE CASE FILE CONTENTS?

Either the glass is half full or its half empty - I suggest he look at the glass as half full - if the mere possibilities above are true.
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Something really bothered me after I got home.......... If Helena's email was not working.... Then she didn't get Mason's email. However - firecat posted she talked to Helena and if she wanted to talk to Fred she would call. It would have been nice for Helena to read the question herself and not be biased by an external influence that already made it clear she was NOT in favor of the request. That is really too bad. Lets allow others to answer their own email requests. That really bugs me because we will never know how she would have reacted if she had read the email. We don't know what type of a relationship if any they have - he obviously already had her email address. So they had been in contact. He wouldn't have known how to get ahold of her.. Right ?
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gvmeabrk wrote:
Dawn, I hope that my post to Mason is not considered as "mean". That was not my intent. I like Mason.
Same here I also like mason but when a missing person doesn't come home or isn't located the family and friends are the first suspects so I see no reason to go over old facts when mason has plenty on his plate already with all the inconsistancy's he could be working on like the bus driver or Sgt.Smith or anyone who was a first responder or was seen at or near the MMM site. Fred and family have been through the ringer I would say!!!!!!
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I know I will probably get flak for this but it has always bothered me that McKay rented a motel room that night. Why? Was this ever checked out?
He did have his own home at the time.

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Tuesday Apr 21
 
gvmeabrk wrote:
I know I will probably get flak for this but it has always bothered me that McKay rented a motel room that night. Why? Was this ever checked out?
He did have his own home at the time.
it is established fact? or rumor?... that McKay rented a motel room that night.
please verify.
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#19020
Tuesday Apr 21
 
Could the person who left a link to a web page that had lots of media info with the name "Posting Godess" on it repost that site. I believe that is where I read about the confusion of Fred Jr and Fred Sr regarding Smith phoning about MMM.
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Tuesday Apr 21
 
Snowy White wrote:
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it is established fact? or rumor?... that McKay rented a motel room that night.
please verify.
Read it on one of the forums. I questioned it at the time but no response. I wish the MMM forum was at least open to read and copy and just lock for additional posting. To much info is lost.
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#19022
Tuesday Apr 21
 
Winston, Have you downloaded MMM 1 & 2 forums? If you have could you email a link that I could download? If this is even possible.

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gvmeabrk wrote:
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Read it on one of the forums. I questioned it at the time but no response. I wish the MMM forum was at least open to read and copy and just lock for additional posting. To much info is lost.
the younger Floyd's name was also put "out there" by way of rumor and speculation at one point.
McKay is dead. he cannot defend himself against rumors at this point.
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