Where is MAURA MURRAY

FireCat wrote:

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In the case of Fred Murray, I can tell you. The answer seems to be "none."
None of us here is Fred Murray, Philip.(and Mason, for that matter, since you keep asking if Fred's behaviour is consistent with something.) The only person who is Fred Murray is, needless to say, Fred Murray.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that Fred posting access to his work records for the night Maura disappeared is going to help bring her home?
Really-really??

What a stupid question to ask since she's dead.

Shack wrote:

Mellow..you are wrong...Helena's 2 Forums from
11/2004 -7/2008 ...56 months... lasted because of
the respect and comraderie of compassion...
Yes, intermingled with a bit of humanity and
light humerous moments within the many.
As the cranky, all knowing, bully mob snuck in,
Helena had had it....and here we be....
8 - 9 months of Topix...fewer months of Advocates
Forum....notice the lack of compassion.....?
Notice the influx of the snarly?
Remember that Fred and Laurie et al are grieving?
It is no longer the team for Maura. As said this
past 2/9/09 at Lodge...it's just entertainment.

Fond memories of wasted opportunities and puerile chit-chat?

You're joking, right?

FireCat wrote:

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Mason saying that using "loving father" and "Fred Murray" in the same sentence is an abomination isn't mud?
Are you for real??

I'll say it again because it's true.

FireCat wrote:

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Weeper is a private investigator, White Wash. That's his JOB.

Weeper and Columbo are incompetent investigators and dissemblers.

Shack wrote:

Mellow..you are wrong...Helena's 2 Forums from
11/2004 -7/2008 ...56 months... lasted because of
the respect and comraderie of compassion...
Yes, intermingled with a bit of humanity and
light humerous moments within the many.
As the cranky, all knowing, bully mob snuck in,
Helena had had it....and here we be....
8 - 9 months of Topix...fewer months of Advocates
Forum....notice the lack of compassion.....?
Notice the influx of the snarly?
Remember that Fred and Laurie et al are grieving?
It is no longer the team for Maura. As said this
past 2/9/09 at Lodge...it's just entertainment.

Just keep on entertaining yourself, Shack.

I wouldn't expect a shallow person like you is capable of any thoughts deeper than that.

elsewhebriefly wrote:

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Sara,
This is incorrect. I have been following Maura's disappearance/investigation for about 5 years and the thought never crossed my mind either.
I provided that link to another site where some random poster brought the issue up and a poster (Peabody) that I've known of and trusted over the years replied.
Read the link and decide for yourself.
I personally find the recent allegations against Mr. Murray ludicrous and libelous.

TRUTH is an absolute defense to any libel accusation.

Snowy White wrote:

a sympathetic and reflexive response to rally around Fred Murray is not unexpected duck behavior...but while at least one poster claims to know his 'alibi', and is not offering it up for examination, then assumptions can and will be made, given walls are being erected around Maura's disappearance.
Mason, while i am personally uncomfortable with the direct inquiry such as you've made to Fred Murray on these forums, i cannot help but notice the defensiveness and extreme efforts made to prevent rather than facilitate your direct contact with FM.
i do know this....fish rots from the head down. and its stinky around here.

Amen, sister.

Johnny Bravado wrote:

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earthburner (aka "Mastermind"),
Despite the fact that it's been at least 2-3 months since I've even logged onto or posted anything in this forum, you are sadly still so deeply distraught over me publicly explaining the truth about you being a sincere cowardly loser in every noteworthy aspect of life that you think obsessively over me throughout every single day of your life, which you prove to everyone in nearly every single post you make regardless of how irrelevant I am to the context of the posts. You and I both know that each and every time that you look in the mirror, you see nothing but a shameless coward. You will never respect yourself, nor will anyone else who knows you intimately. Given the content of your posts, how could you? You and I both know that you have to live with this every single day of your sad life, and the fact that I brought this truth out by simply analyzing your posts eats you alive. Every single statement I've made in this summary thus far can also be applied to your boyfriend, "Benjamin Franklyne", who is one of the only people alive as dreadfully pathetic as you and who also obsesses over me to such an absurdly repugnant extent that he also repeatedly mentions my name in posts that I have nothing to do with on a forum that I haven't visited in months. The only difference between the two of you is that Benjamin Franklyne accepts the fact that he has always been a cowardly loser with no friends or social life his entire life and is content with the fact that he will remain this way for the rest of his sad life while you, on the other hand, are still attempting to come to grips with this reality. I suggest you seek advice from Benjamin Franklyne on how to be content living such a cowardly life, and then perhaps you won't cry and obsess over me, which, by the way, I find quite flattering. I advance my most sincere pity to the two of you.
For the rest of you, most of whom I respect, you may recall that I was attempting to interview the SBD in Florida. I cannot and will not discuss anything that took place, especially in an open, public forum, and particularly in this open, public forum. However, I will say that any information that was learned was passed on directly to both the NH LE and a 3rd party with ties to this case (I cannot elaborate on that party for obvious reasons). I hope that those of you with genuine concern for Maura and the Murray family are satisfied in knowing that any and all information I may have gotten was given to the appropriate authorities. My recent experiences have rid me of any desire I had to post on these forums, so I don't have any intention of posting again. To those of you who share the same genuine concern for Maura and the same sincere desire to solve this case as I do, I hope you understand my position, and I wish you the best of luck.

I bet if I call you a white-haired molesting pig that you WILL feel obligated to post again, you retarded sack of shit. I find it hilarious that you think I would take any of this personally. You continually make a fool of yourself by making claims about my personal life that couldn't be further from the truth. Go ahead and try to insult me again, you are wasting your time. With each and every post, it's you that looks more like the fool, not me. You've always been on the defensive with your snide remarks, and to hide what? What is your agenda here if it is not to throw insults? What if I called you Fred Murray? Would that make you feel obligated to post? Come on. Post again. Once more for old times sake you SICK FUCK. I hope you and your clan of looneys ROT IN HELL.

Mason wrote:

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What a stupid question to ask since she's dead.

You know that she is dead and how I am sure everyone who posts here would like to know how you are so sure of yourself....

Mason wrote:

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The ducks have earned the privilege of being condemned because you've never contributed a useful or helpful fact. You are members of a sorority that requires its members to swear undying devotion to Fred Murray and promise never to use their brains.
Yeah, a totally cool group of girls.

they fondly reminisce....the bonding, the promises, and forever, unbroken loyalty.

Fred Murray's letter to the governor (part 1):
Governor Benson:
My daughter, Maura Murray, went missing after a one car accident on February 9, 2004 at approximately 7:00 PM while she was heading east on Route 112 near North Haverhill, New
Hampshire. Eye witnesses place her at the crash site at one (1) to two (2) minutes before the
local police arrived and no one was seen to stop and pick her up in a vehicle. This means that
when the police reached the scene Maura could have been no further than a couple of
hundred yards up the road around the first corner walking away. Another witness who stopped and talked with her reported to the police upon their arrival that the driver of the
car was a young woman of approximately twenty (20) years of age. He added that he thought she had been drinking. There was an empty beer bottle found in the car and in addition,
there was a spider hole in the driver’s side of the windshield indicating that she had struck her
head at impact. The temperature that evening was twelve (12) degrees.
Given these known facts it was grossly negligent of the police to not dispatch a cruiser in
active pursuit in a spirited effort to retrieve an unsuspecting and vulnerable girl with a possible head injury and subject to hypothermia because of alcohol and frigid temperature
before she wandered into the pitch black of the national forest looming just ahead.
The police had full knowledge that if she were to encounter someone with ill intent that she
would have no place to hide, no place to run and absolutely no help available. Furthermore,
duty as well as common sense obligates the police to call ahead to the next town in the
direction they had to assume she was heading. They knew they had not passed her as they
drove east to the accident site during their response to the “911” call. The Woodstock police
were not notified nor asked to send an officer to intercept her by driving west in the direction in
which she was approaching.
She was figuratively and nearly literally “right there” readily available to be rescued and saved
from whatever fate has befallen her. All that the police had to do was to expend minimal
mental and physical effort and my daughter, Maura would be safely here with me today. But,
unfortunately, the police neglected to make even the most basic effort to find her, and I remain
without her now and perhaps forever.
The onus of this irresponsible and possibly fatal lack of action lies not only with the North
Haverhill force, but also with the New Hampshire State Police who responded to the “911” calls
from the neighbors as well.

Recently, nearly three (3) months after the accident, a motorist who was driving west on Route
112 at about 8:00 PM on February 9 reported seeing a young person acting furtively heading
very fast in an easterly direction at a point about four (4) to five (5) miles away from the scene of the crash. The time line and description of the individual’s appearance and clothing fits perfectly for this person to have been Maura.
This witness lives within just yards of the accident site, but said he had been confused about
the exact date and time of that event because the state police had not interviewed him until 10
days had passed. As hard as this is to believe, it is actually true since an investigator helping
the family questioned him on Sunday, February 15 and he said the police hadn’t been there to
talk to him yet. At this point I appealed directly to the state police to pay attention to
rudimentary procedure and turned our notes over to them. This apparently prompted a
belated response which led to the questioning of this witness on Thursday, February 19.
That this nearly immediately located neighbor who could have been a prime source of critical
information should have been questioned in a timely fashion on the very evening of the
accident or, at the latest, on the following day is a fully reasonable expectation of adequate
investigative policy. If this had occurred this person would have had immediate recollection of
the sighting of my daughter and a “hot lead” would have ensued.
Statistics, which are very well known by state police agencies, indicate that cases
get solved from tips received in the first two or three days or they can go cold forever. To
wait ten days to speak to such an obvious source of potentially crucial information based on his
proximity to the event will be hard to explain even for those adept at this skill. It is no wonder that the state police are reluctant to release to me their accident report to which I am probably legally entitled.
I get nearly physically sick when I wake up each morning and the thought of how really little
effort it would have taken to rescue my daughter automatically flashes through my mind.
It has been over three months since her disappearance and the only leads developed have
been handed to the state police by others. Yet still these guys maintain that they don’t need
any help. The FBI offered its assistance during the opening week of this case but have only
been utilized in a very minor way such as interviewing family members and high school friends in Maura’s hometown of Hanson, MA, and also a couple of college acquaintances.
These state police officers are great people personally, and I like them and respect them.
They are the type of men and women that both you and I would be very pleased to have living in our
own neighborhoods, but the inescapable reality remains that they clearly need help in finding Maura.
The finest resource in the world is available and you, sir, should direct Lieutenant John
Scarinza and Troop F to accept its offer. There are corollary cases in Vermont also and this
entire situation begs for central co-ordination and investigation by an agency which is not
bound by the confines of the configuration of Grafton County and the Connecticut River.
The young women in the northern region of your state are not safe and it is clearly imperative
that you act decisively before you lose another. Deep within themselves, your citizens are
nervously apprehensive and anxiously awaiting your response to this threat.
Respectfully,
Fred Murray

The above is a partial letter written by Fred Murray to the governor. I'm sure most of you have read it already.

Sara wrote:

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I was only asking because it was a bit shocking to read. I guess for me since Fred and LE are in a battle over information that Fred was being denied, coupled with his constant searching, and having an alibi, the thought had never crossed my mind. I wanted to see if others way before Mason had also insinuated this because for me it had never even crossed my mind. Hope I expanded enough for you to understand why the question was asked in the first place.

Sara, what makes you think he has an alibi?

I suggest you may want to take a closer look at that issue. Only the ducks claim he does, but no proof has been provided.

I've asked, but they puff their feathers, waddle in circles, QUACK, play games, and fondly recall treating people like dirt in the good old days.

I recommend you avoid them like the plague, since that is what they are.

Here's the other letter:
Governor Lynch:
Today, February 9, 2005 marks the one year point of my daughter, Maura Murray’s
unlikely and highly suspicious disappearance following a minor car accident on
Route 112
in North Haverhill, New Hampshire.
The investigative body, New Hampshire State Police Troop F of Grafton County,
has
followed up its astonishingly careless go-through-the-motions response with an
unnaturally steadfast refusal to communicate on the matter since. Their
investigation
includes not questioning neighbors who live one hundred yards from and in sight
of the
accident scene until 10 days had passed, and this only after my family and friends
had
spoken to these people and expressed our shock about it to the police. My
daughter
could have walked right by or have been picked up in a vehicle by the wrong
person(s) in
full view of these houses. Not even the fact that their tracking dog lost Maura’s
scent
squarely before these properties, one of which was owned by the last person who
talked
to Maura, and another by the last person to actually see her, was enough to
provoke the
most elementary of basic investigatory technique.
Phone records reveal that Maura called a couple who rent their condominium in
Bartlett,
New Hampshire, where our family has vacationed for decades, just before she left
the
University of Massachusetts and headed directly that way last February 9. When I
recently discovered that these folks had never even been contacted by Troop F it
felt as if
I had just been struck across the face with a two-by-four.
I remain convinced also that police have not fully developed a lead given to them
concerning a local man who claimed he knew what had happened to “that girl” and
disclosed the location where she had been held and by whom.
Law Enforcement’s decision on this case from its inception has been to insist that
you can
take your pick of three possible happenstances: suicide, runaway, or hyperthermia
victim
but not consider the fourth which is the probability, rather than the possibility, that
is, that
a bad guy grabbed her and they can’t catch him.

To support their diversion the
commander of Troop F twice stated during The Chronicle Program on Channel 5 in
Boston that Maura wrote a final letter to her boyfriend and left it in a prominent
place in
her dormitory room. This clearly suggests the traditional “suicide letter”, but the
deception is that she never wrote or left such a letter at all and the police were fully
cognizant of this fact at that time.
The pattern certainly doesn’t indicate adherence to accepted and recommended
police
procedure. To date the high law enforcement officials in Concord have reacted like
ostriches to this pseudo-investigation by your Troop F. I am left with a hollow, gut-
wrenching sensation resulting from finally knowing for sure that the people
responsible for
finding my daughter are not even submitting a mail-it-in effort on her behalf.
Worse still is
that they remain determined to not accept the offer of meaningful participation
extended
by the Federal Bureau of Investigation which is strangely odd indeed.
I am appealing to you, sir, to ask Attorney General Kelly Ayotte to authorize the
release of
the records in this case to me through my petition under the Freedom of
Information Act
and the New Hampshire Right to Know Law RSA CH 91-A. I am basing this plea on
the
present classification of my daughter’s case as a missing person situation and not
as a
criminal investigation. What could be the nature of this which must be so zealously
veiled
from view and the motivation prompting such secrecy?
With no informational resources available I am left to desperately search for Maura
all by
myself. How can I do this if the police sit idly on the applicable evidence? Take, for
example, her computer. If I could get it back, I might be able to discern who she
contacted
on that last afternoon and perhaps discover a new direction to follow. It’s one
thing if
Troop F isn’t willing to be part of the solution, but please don’t allow them to
continue to
be part of the problem.
Governor Lynch, you represent my final hope to help my little girl. I pray that you
will
regard reacting favorably to my entreaty, not so much as your legal obligation, but
as a
parent, your moral responsibility.
Hopefully,
Frederick J. Murray

Snowy White wrote:

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thanks, you have.
i didn't want to name names without understanding why they were being singled out.
i once actively defended FM on this forum, without information to support my position...except to observe that he appears to be a grieving father in photos.
it hadn't crossed my mind, either, that he may be considered a 'suspect'until Mason's specific mention.
while you suggest FM has an alibi, i do not believe that information has been proven as fact on these forums.

Fred and family were the first people the investigators looked at very closely.
In every missing persons case the look at family first......OMG

peripeteia wrote:

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Mason
Fred is not a suspect, other than in your mind, and others who are sorely misguided. Speaking of being consumed, read the words you've spoken and weap, consumed is as consumed does. Soon as I saw the recent post of equally bad taste pointing fingers at Fred, I knew you could not resist returning to victimize the victims, seems you do that well, good defense lawyer technique, but the question then becomes, who is paying you? Because if you are doing this of your own account, weap hard, and long.

Apparently, you don't understand acting on principle.

Too bad.

So sad.

Catch you in the next life.

Hey, where's that dude, Karma.

Come Karma, bring me my juice. I need to whet my ruby red lips.

OH MY wrote:

<quoted text>You know that she is dead and how I am sure everyone who posts here would like to know how you are so sure of yourself....

So, you're one of the authors of the she's-alive-and-living-with-a- hunk-in-the-Province-of-Quebec letters.

Better call the cops and let them know because I'm sure they want to verify that statement.

We aren't playing Clue here.

That's showing in the theater across the street.

earthburner wrote:

To support their diversion the
commander of Troop F twice stated during The Chronicle Program on Channel 5 in
Boston that Maura wrote a final letter to her boyfriend and left it in a prominent
place in
her dormitory room. This clearly suggests the traditional “suicide letter”, but the
deception is that she never wrote or left such a letter at all and the police were fully
cognizant of this fact at that time.
The pattern certainly doesn’t indicate adherence to accepted and recommended
police
procedure. To date the high law enforcement officials in Concord have reacted like
ostriches to this pseudo-investigation by your Troop F. I am left with a hollow, gut-
wrenching sensation resulting from finally knowing for sure that the people
responsible for
finding my daughter are not even submitting a mail-it-in effort on her behalf.
Worse still is
that they remain determined to not accept the offer of meaningful participation
extended
by the Federal Bureau of Investigation which is strangely odd indeed.
I am appealing to you, sir, to ask Attorney General Kelly Ayotte to authorize the
release of
the records in this case to me through my petition under the Freedom of
Information Act
and the New Hampshire Right to Know Law RSA CH 91-A. I am basing this plea on
the
present classification of my daughter’s case as a missing person situation and not
as a
criminal investigation. What could be the nature of this which must be so zealously
veiled
from view and the motivation prompting such secrecy?
With no informational resources available I am left to desperately search for Maura
all by
myself. How can I do this if the police sit idly on the applicable evidence? Take, for
example, her computer. If I could get it back, I might be able to discern who she
contacted
on that last afternoon and perhaps discover a new direction to follow. It’s one
thing if
Troop F isn’t willing to be part of the solution, but please don’t allow them to
continue to
be part of the problem.
Governor Lynch, you represent my final hope to help my little girl. I pray that you
will
regard reacting favorably to my entreaty, not so much as your legal obligation, but
as a
parent, your moral responsibility.
Hopefully,
Frederick J. Murray

Interesting position for him to take since the computer sat in Kathleen's closet for God knows how long before the cops wanted it back.

Why does Fred Murray expect respect when he lies and dissembles like this?