Where is MAURA MURRAY

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FireCat wrote:

Because it's an ongoing criminal investigation. Period.

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Old Timer wrote:

Mason
Do you have a BS degree? I am sure you do and in my book that stands for..Bullshit.
Art

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Shack wrote:

jmth...only my words and advice..Pls,do not send
anything to him....if he isn't intelligent
enough to do it on his own...being a big deal
attorney....he can get one of his shallow
women secretaries to do it for him...with his
coffee.......
If you do not trust me..check with w/Helena.Pls.

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earthburner wrote:

i've been sick to my stomach since day one, duck meat is very greasy.

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Snowy White wrote:

Missed the discussion on the other forum until just now...have extracted some quotes...gotta' run, but this one by Mason is excellent...happy to share it:
"Peri,
You're forgetting that Fred Murray filed his lawsuit in late 2005, approximately 18 months after Maura disappeared. At that time, the NHSP still considered her to be a missing person. The State did not reclassify her case as a criminal investigation until later.
The critical point that I focused on was the NHSP's refusal to tell Fred Murray anything during the 18-month period that Maura was officially considered a missing person.
Police generally are more willing to share information about a missing person with the missing person's family than would be the case in a criminal investigation unless they believe there is a possibility that the missing person fled because she was afraid of someone in her family. This is the point that you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge, Peri. This point is fatal to your argument.
In other words, your entire argument is 100% bullshit.
Also, even though you and I agree that Maura probably is dead and a victim of foul play, I must again point out that the NHSP's decision to reclassify her case as a criminal investigation does not mean the NHSP ruled out that she's alive or ruled out suicide. Police don't have to rule out two out of three possibilities to classify a case as an investigation of the the third and final possibility.
Your saying that when the NHSP reclassified her case as a criminal investigation it did so because it ruled out that she's alive and ruled out suicide makes as much sense as someone saying before the reclassification that its initial decision to classify her case as a missing person meant it had ruled out death by suicide and death by foul play.
Your reasoning also is fatally flawed by your stubborn refusal to consider the effect of his lawsuit. By reclassifying her case as a criminal investigation, the NHSP had a much stronger legal argument against disclosure. The trial court's order after the Supreme Court's reversal of its first order and the remand to reconsider his arguments in light of its opinion resulted in the trial court denying him everything he wanted except for a few trivial and unimportant matters that he could have cared less about. Therefore, he did not win anything except an expensive bill for legal services.
I've pointed this out to you several times, but you keep repeating the same bullshit argument over and over as if by mere repetition you will somehow convince everyone you are right.
You have about as much of chance of convincing anyone with a brain that you're right as you would have convincing your neighbors that the Earth is flat if you stood on a street corner in your neighborhood and screamed over and over that the Earth is flat.
It's irritating, annoying, and the more you repeat it, the crazier you sound.
Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle. Enough already!
Come on ducks! Your arguments are now peripathetic.
Can any one of you walk and chew gum at the same time?
I suppose you could summon Sophie Bean. She's always good for a bunch of screams."

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Thank you Lady Gray, I have had it on the tip of my tongue to ask for the very same thing! So, Mason, etc., maybe someone can ask SBD and CW for their work schedules that night. Like Dawn says, it will help them not be pois, I guess. White Wash, you know CW, maybe you could help. It would certainly alleviate a lot of the controversy here.

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Snowy White wrote:

Missed the discussion on the other forum until just now...have extracted some quotes...gotta' run, but this one by Mason is excellent...happy to share it:
"Peri,
You're forgetting that Fred Murray filed his lawsuit in late 2005, approximately 18 months after Maura disappeared. At that time, the NHSP still considered her to be a missing person. The State did not reclassify her case as a criminal investigation until later.
The critical point that I focused on was the NHSP's refusal to tell Fred Murray anything during the 18-month period that Maura was officially considered a missing person.
Police generally are more willing to share information about a missing person with the missing person's family than would be the case in a criminal investigation unless they believe there is a possibility that the missing person fled because she was afraid of someone in her family. This is the point that you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge, Peri. This point is fatal to your argument.
In other words, your entire argument is 100% bullshit.
Also, even though you and I agree that Maura probably is dead and a victim of foul play, I must again point out that the NHSP's decision to reclassify her case as a criminal investigation does not mean the NHSP ruled out that she's alive or ruled out suicide. Police don't have to rule out two out of three possibilities to classify a case as an investigation of the the third and final possibility.
Your saying that when the NHSP reclassified her case as a criminal investigation it did so because it ruled out that she's alive and ruled out suicide makes as much sense as someone saying before the reclassification that its initial decision to classify her case as a missing person meant it had ruled out death by suicide and death by foul play.
Your reasoning also is fatally flawed by your stubborn refusal to consider the effect of his lawsuit. By reclassifying her case as a criminal investigation, the NHSP had a much stronger legal argument against disclosure. The trial court's order after the Supreme Court's reversal of its first order and the remand to reconsider his arguments in light of its opinion resulted in the trial court denying him everything he wanted except for a few trivial and unimportant matters that he could have cared less about. Therefore, he did not win anything except an expensive bill for legal services.
I've pointed this out to you several times, but you keep repeating the same bullshit argument over and over as if by mere repetition you will somehow convince everyone you are right.
You have about as much of chance of convincing anyone with a brain that you're right as you would have convincing your neighbors that the Earth is flat if you stood on a street corner in your neighborhood and screamed over and over that the Earth is flat.
It's irritating, annoying, and the more you repeat it, the crazier you sound.
Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle. Enough already!
Come on ducks! Your arguments are now peripathetic.
Can any one of you walk and chew gum at the same time?
I suppose you could summon Sophie Bean. She's always good for a bunch of screams."

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Mason wrote:

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No.
I've never been in NH, VT, or ME. I spent 5 months in Boston in 1972, after I graduated from law school. Then, I moved to Chicago and two-years later to Seattle.
The last time I was in New England was 10 years before Maura was born.

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Mason wrote:

I am a law professor. I do not represent clients and would not agree to represent anyone in any case, no matter how much money they offered to pay me.
I have no financial interest in Maura's case.
I want to see justice done in Maura's case. I have an intelligent, independent, and beautiful daughter who is one-year, one-month, and one-day older than Maura. They look enough alike that I think they could pass for sisters.
I think of Maura as though she were my daughter and there is no force on this planet or in this universe that will stop me in my quest to expose the truth for everyone to see.

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Mason wrote:

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I was one of two whistleblowers who were fired without cause for exposing that the Dean and the Assistant Dean were running a Ponzi scheme stealing student loan money. The Assistant Dean also was running a scheme awarding grades for sex.
The other whistleblower is a highly respected former circuit court judge named John John T. Daughaday. Our efforts produced a civil RICO lawsuit filed in federal court against the Dean and bthe Assistant Dean. The case was settled three months later and we were reinstated with full backpay.
Unfortunately, the new school (Barkley School of Law) born out of the former school (American Justice of Law) was multiple millions of dollars in debt due to the financial misdeeds of the former Dean and Assistant Dean. The new school collapsed under the debt and was unable to renew the contracts of all faculty members on August 31, 2008. It ceased operations effective December 31, 2008, and is now in bankruptcy.
Fortunately, Judge Daughaday (who was appointed Interim Dean of the Barkley School of Law) and the rest of the faculty, including me, were able to help all but a few of our students transfer into other law schools where they are performing very well academically.
Our faculty was rated exceptional by the ABA.
Principles matter to me and my students mattered to me. I will live or die by my principles, doesn't matter which outcome.
I doubt you can say the same.

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WHITE WASH wrote:

Well according to the LE I have spoken w/they have informed Fred Murray of their findings.
Fred Murray has someone assigned to him from the AG's office.
Let's be real Fred's question is have you found her? No he shuts down.
He has zero interest or desire in anything from LE that has so do with
w/anything short of her being found!
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Mason wrote:

I work alone. I have no secretary, no paralegal, and no investigator.
Well, ducks. What's your next sleazy, slimy bullshit move.
Come on, don't be shy.
I'm in the mood to kick some ass.
You have eyes, but you do not see.
You have ears, but you do not hear.
You have brains, but you do not use them.
You take up space and contribute nothing positive.
You lie.
You dissemble.
You slime.
And you are so easy to put down.

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WHITE WASH wrote:

Duck,Duck,Duck
GOOSE!
Run,Gander,Run
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Snowy White wrote:

Why did Maura delay in getting her driver's license until 20ish? Unusual under most circumstances.
Is it possible her father was a force of excessive force/discipline? Might he have valued his vehicle as much as his daughter....such that her wrecking his car was a heated topic/issue?

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peripeteia wrote:

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Hopefully law enforcement has this information, what has been gathered from forums, and media and family, PI:
CW left work as per log at 1900 from Franconia and drove the 112 home. Unknown if log signing was witnessed, or if he left when he said he did.
SBD dropped the children off at Woodsville school at 1830, unknown when he actually departed only when he arrived, unknown route he took home, well not 100% sure, whether down 302 and onto 112 or if he came across Swiftwater Road/Gooselane Rd. never quoted in media, other than he came from West on 112.
Presumably the police have exact times, and routes home.

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OH MY wrote:

<quoted text>you know what blows my mind is how smart you think you are..key words are you think

OH MY wrote:

<quoted text>you don't have to have traveled to new england to kill someone